Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hi Susan, > First, thank you both for your answers and Butch, your answer is quite > informative despite your lack of sleep! Thankee ma'am .. and welcome you are. :-P > Anyway, my questions did refer to skin issues people might want to heal > with the use of essential oils in a cream, lotion or soap. Then .. the percentages shown in Plant Aromatics are the safe bet .. even though they do put their finger on the scales a bit .. the reason for that is valid and you can't be sure how often a buyer is going to use your product. > I suppose I was trying to apply the same theory behind medicines to eo's, > i.e., if someone wanted to use eo's for burns or other skin issue what > level is too low to do any good. For burns and minor skin problems, I would say the level is too low if the application does not cover the area one wants to heal. Having the correct percentage of dilution at times can be a luxury. There comes a time when risk is acceptable .. leastways to me there does. For a burn I would immediately splash on Neat Lavender (L. angustifolia preferred .. if none handy .. then L. stoechas) .. and more than one time I have used Neat Origanum on a wound .. used it dozens of times a day back in August 1999 when I was doing search and rescue when we had the big quake that killed 22,000 +. In order to get into the area quickly I convinced the Ankara Governor that I could deal with first aid issues .. so I had a Red Cross on the windshield of my car. Cops and other rescue personnel came to me often for EO .. they all feared disease as the temperature was in the upper 90s. So .. again, each person must decide if they want to accept a risk under certain circumstances. In this case .. I accepted double risk .. Neat use and use of EO on open wounds. Both are no-no's under normal circumstances. As for not using enough .. the question is next to impossible to answer because we just don't know .. but we do know how much is probably too much and with use of EO .. more is never better. If the percentages shown in Plant Aromatics were not sufficient then they would not be reported as such .. remember, those facts and figures were not presented for the benefit of folks on this list .. they were compiled by the IFRA, etc., for use by commercial companies and such companies avoid production of products that are not effective. > Since nit picking sometimes makes things easier to answer I'll have > to ask about therapeutic value Butch refered to: First .. lemme say that nit picking probably was not the best choice of wording .. but it seemed to be OK at 0355 this morning. ;-) When folks ask broad questions it generally means that they are not ready for broad answers. Its like asking someone to tell you how to fly an airplane. Better it is to narrow the subject matter and watch what goes down. Better even still is to get the correct reference materials. Then one will have answers for maybe 90% of the questions that might pop into their mind .. after that its just a matter of refining data and building upon what one already has learned. Better it is to start out with good/correct information than it is to later try to unlearn bad/incorrect information. That's why I still highly recommend Martin Watt's AT Course .. I'm no longer connected to this .. have nothing to gain .. except feeling good about folks reaching out for good, safe education on the use of EO. >>(Butch wrote) If one is sniffing an oil there is no problem anyway .. >>we can sniff neat or diluted .. matters not. We will gain therapeutic >>value from the sniffing. Again .. one would need to know what >>benefits you want. As for inhalation .. just a little bit will do >>you. There is no way one will not gain therapeutic value from >>sniffing. (clipped) Most of the cremes and such folks make are nice >>smelling products that might cure some outer skin problem or make the >>skin smoother, etc. Any other gain from those products is the same >>gain one gets from using EO in massage .. the violatile oils rise .. >>the olfactory system takes in those molecules and wham .. change >>occurs due to therapeutic properties of the oils. Lemme add that .. therapeutic benefit comes in many different forms .. physiological, psychological and emotional .. and often there is an overlap between these three. > SO MANY things I've read about aromatherapy claim oils have SO MANY > healing properties physically, emotionally and mentally. Basically .. the three terms I used above are down to earth terms for the " mind, body and spirit " humma-humma used in AT, which is probably better terminology for marketing purposes. Esoteric beats the crap out of science every time. ;-) > I can believe claims regarding emotional and mental changes when using > eo's which could then help physical issues like high blood pressure Good it is that you believe this because you are absolutely correct. But there are more direct results to be had with a number of EO for prevention and cure of certain problems .. and for rather immediate changes in psychological or mental attitude. > but therapeutic like combating arthritis or kidney problems, etc.? Some EO are extremely effective for temporary relief for arthritis, rheumatism, etc. I mentioned them last night .. Wintergreen and Sweet Birch .. but they are dangerous enough that I won't/don't sell them. They, like alcohol to an alcoholic or a shot of heroin to a druggie are effective to pull them out of the dump .. but they do nothing at all to remedy the problem beyond temporary and immediate relief from a problem that they are helping to continue. Kidney problems .. that is in there with the dozens and dozens of other physical ails that some sellers claim to be able to fix with EO ... in almost all such cases the seller knows absolutely nothing about what they are selling .. about aromatherapy .. or about human physiology. In some other cases .. they are copying text regarding the use of herbs and trying to apply the text to use of essential oils ... which is dumber than dirt and also very dangerous. Lemme close by saying that cleaning up this industry .. forcing truth in advertising and quality control of products sold .. is as difficult as solving the problems of hatred in Iraq .. or of cleaning up graft and corruption found in most elected bodies. This is not only true of the USA .. if one wants to surf web sites in Europe they can also find such claims .. and even find folks selling products that don't exist in nature. The best folks can do is learn for themselves .. don't accept a damn thing anyone says just because they claim to be knowledgeable .. this includes what I am saying now. Get the best references you can .. stay away from the Gurus and question the claims of the Gud Ol' Boys & Gals in the AT industry .. many of them have been around 25 years but that does not make them experts .. many have 1 year of experience 25 times. Those of us who have been in the business a while are either totally straight or fairly straight or crooked as a dawg's hind laig. And each of us .. matters not which category we fit in .. knows where the others fit. But few of us are into the Ralph Nader mentality .. we are not investigative reporters .. and if we were to drop dimes on those who probably deserve to have dimes dropped on them .. many folks would say we were jealous and trying to slam the competition .. Young Living makes these claims often when folks tell the truth about them. But the reason we are more willing to drop a dime on YL is because YL puts out totally unsafe information .. and I think those in this industry who have no skeletons in their closest will come out damn fast when they see unsafe information being spread. There are others who are either afraid to rock the boat .. or don't give a crap. ;-) > Susan Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Butch, I gotta say thank you for your responses-straight to the point and enlightening all the time. Thank you, Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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