Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:32:58 -0700 butch owen <butchbsi Clear vs Colored Glass for Essential Oils Hi y'all, Reference the discussion on this subject a few days ago. I have a few opinions on this .. and danged near most things .. even if I might be wrong from time to time. ;-p Clear Glass Sucks .. I think! Saying that clear glass is as safe as colored glass is but an opinion or a position or a claim of one who sells in clear bottles. This subject came up on the Idma list years ago .. I kept most of the replies but I am not going to repeat them here. NOBODY agreed with this position .. to include some active research scientists (also PhD's if that means anything to anyone reading this .. it doesn't to me) and to others who were highly qualified outside the area of aroma chemistry. It was August 1999. At that time, there was much scientific hoo-doo and counter hoo-doo .. and it was one of the most heated of the many heated exchanges we've had on Idma. The heavy weights got involved and it was almost like a Star Wars battle. Only difference was there was a lot more name calling than we find in the Star Wars movie. If its fear mongering and propaganda that caused manufacturers of many products containing chemicals .. for the last 250 + years .. to use only colored glass .. then we have a world full of mega-buck and scientific organizations who are susceptable to the power of glass makers .. and if you believe that, I have a bridge in Istanbul up for sale now. In fact, there are many studies showing the negative effects of light and temperature on essential oils .. and I'm not buying that ANYTHING is not susceptible to the effects of light .. including rocks. I know that those in the know don't buy the arguement presented but I have to admit that propaganda does influence many people. We see it with those who choose to follow Young Living .. and those who are willing to believe that colored glass is safe for essential oils. Could just be that someone got a real good buy on clear glass. According to my readings (and I read a lot for a dumb ol' kuntry boy), its been like 250 years or so since patented or commercial medications came on the scene .. but glass has been produced since around 3,500 BC to protect what they used as healing remedies .. and the preferred colors were dark VIOLET/PURPLE and GOLD .. leastways that's the way its stated in some history texts. So .. if those folks were blowing smoke at each other .. it means we've continued that smoke blowing for more than 250 years .. well over 5,500 years it is and I ain't ready to buy that folks were all that stupid for all that long. Good chance it is they didn't know why their potions needed protection .. but they knew they did. I believe that the protective ability against photochemical processes of glass ranges as does the colors of the Spectrum .. starting and ending in that order. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo and Violet. My position is that UV rays are potent and stopped by very few things, including clothing and clouds. The worst sunburns can occur on cloudy days when UV rays reflect off of the clouds and sunbathers get a double dose. Another issue is electro-magnetic radiation or pulse (commonly called and in military terms, EMP .. electromagnetic radiation in many areas of the spectrum will cause molecules to ionize and that results in fragmentation .. a breakdown it is so a good thing it ain't. This will occur faster if the oil is colored to begin with ... the color itself is an indication that there are molecular electronic transitions taking place in the visible range of our eyes. I use Miron Violet Glass because its PROVEN via some fairly sophisticated research that Violet is the most protective color in the Spectrum. For a time, I had the research on my site under " About AVNP " .. the link is now " Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden. " So I went looking again and found a link .. here http://www.luminanti.com/mironvioletglass.html I do not use Miron on wholesale orders because the buyer is going to empty the bottle and refill their own brand anyway. Miron Violet is expensive. Howsomever .. this ol' kuntry boy ordered his in 1999 by the Pallet Load .. a Pallet Load of each size .. and though it was a MAJOR START UP INVESTMENT I got'em for a good bit less. ;-p Miron Violet is a old Swiss patent .. produced in Germany. You wanna see what they look like .. go here http://www.AV-AT.com/about.html They look almost black. On 11 August 1999 we had the Full Sun Eclipse right over Ankara .. enterprising folks were selling smoked glass and whatever on every street corner the day before. My employees and I stood on my office balcony and watched it for the entire period .. using 100 ml Miron Violet Glass .. it was a wonderful sight fer'shur. Here it tells a bit about those rare events .. http://www.eclipse99.nasa.gov/ Twas a big deal here .. Parlimentarians took a break and filed into the Grand National Assembly gardens (we didn't notice they weren't working). Shops closed and many people said their marriage vows again or for the first time during the eclipse, to include a number of foreign elipse chasers ... traffic stopped (unbelievable for Turkey) ... and a three year old child being held on the railing of a third story balcony was dropped and fell. The child landed in a big pile of sand and had no injuries. :-) During that period, millions of dollars were committed to scientific study of the habits of certain critters, birds, turtles, etc., and their reaction to the short period of daytime darkness - not sure what they were looking for, but I reckon they found it. I know it had an impact on two-legged critters. It created a regular festival-like atmosphere here in Turkey. That night the bars were full of Eclipse partiers - ol' Butch being one uv'em. ;-) Nice little article on the bird watching http://birding.about.com/library/weekly/aa080899.htm Interesting it is .. and perhaps coincidental .. but six days later, at 0305 in the morning on 17 August 1999 .. we had the largest earthquake we've had in memory here in Turkey .. I spent the next seven days in Golcuk (the epicenter) digging out bodies .. few were alive. Turkey had more than 22,000 deaths in that quake. :-( Back to glass y'all .. since Miron Violet costs a heckuva lot more than the other colors I'd have to be some kinda ignert idjit to use them if I didn't believe they were worth it. An ol' kuntry boy I is but an ignert idjit I reckon I ain't. ;-p If I am wrong and clear glass is fine for essential oils .. I have no more to say on this .. but I'm not gonna swallow it based on the opinion of anyone .. an academic degree will not be enough to convince me .. I need verifiable facts. If I am right then those end-users who buy in clear glass might be buying more oils .. more often .. from some of the good folks on this list .. might even be from me. ;-9 Y'all keep smiling, Butch :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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