Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 As the cost of transportation goes In San Francisco the gasoline is 4.00 plus a gallon, and I am sure that Exxon needs money and the price will be, i have heard 7.00 a gal. eventually. There are a lot of cronies who expect their monthly dole, and I am sure it will come through for them. What w3 so desperately need is to get those alternative methods going. Years ago Popular Mechanics had a article about a man who had perfected either a carb , or a fuel pump that would take a caddie 50 miles to the gal. The talk at that time was Standard Oil had bought it up. sharon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 heck with that, what about the guy that runs his car on USED cooking oil,now as much greasy food as the US consumes, crap we're sittin on a gold mine for fuel~! btw, it was 50 miles on the cooking oil I believe~he converted a diesel engine Sindy - There is so much to find out .. Years ago Popular > Mechanics had a article about a man who had perfected either a carb , or > a fuel > pump that would take a caddie 50 miles to the gal. The talk at that time > was > Standard Oil had bought it up. sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 heck with that, what about the guy that runs his car on USED cooking oil [Dave:] I know two people who do that. It’s easy to convert any diesel vehicle to run on veggie oil. No modifications to the engine at all. Rudolf Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release 4/5/2007 3:33 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release 4/5/2007 3:33 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hey Dave, Rob and I bought a lovingly used '79 Mercedes Diesel 4-door sedan for that very purpose. Can get filled up at our local co-op and she's a comfortable ride. I think you can also mix biodiesel with straight diesel in almost any percentage, and use it that way too. And, I'm now used to having to pop the clutch to shut her down. Mercy. :-) Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria > > > On Behalf Of David Lambert > Friday, April 06, 2007 3:14 PM > > RE: There is so much to find out > > heck with that, what about the guy that runs his car on USED > cooking oil > > [Dave:] I know two people who do that. It's easy to convert > any diesel vehicle to run on veggie oil. No modifications to > the engine at all. > Rudolf Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hey Dave, Rob and I bought a lovingly used '79 Mercedes Diesel 4-door sedan for that very purpose. [Dave:] Aah, I’m jealous! I’ve wanted one for years. My friend here in town runs a Ford truck on biodiesel. And my friend up in the next county runs an old Ford diesel ambulance on straight used vegetable oil he gets from restaurants. He runs it through a 5-micron filter, and from there it’s straight into the tank. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release 4/5/2007 3:33 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release 4/5/2007 3:33 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 There was just a story in the paper about a man here in NJ who is doing the same thing with a car of his. Sounds fascinating-it would be cool to see all you guys interested in this to come together and do a cross-counrty rally-imagine all the free fuel from all those greasy spoon truck stops you could fill up on! , " David Lambert " <dlmbrt wrote: > > Hey Dave, > > Rob and I bought a lovingly used '79 Mercedes Diesel 4-door sedan for that > very purpose. > > [Dave:] Aah, I'm jealous! I've wanted one for years. My friend here in > town runs a Ford truck on biodiesel. And my friend up in the next county > runs an old Ford diesel ambulance on straight used vegetable oil he gets > from restaurants. He runs it through a 5-micron filter, and from there it's > straight into the tank. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 There was just a story in the paper about a man here in NJ who is doing the same thing with a car of his. Sounds fascinating--it would be cool to see all you guys interested in this to come together and do a cross-counrty rally-imagine all the free fuel from all those greasy spoon truck stops you could fill up on! [Dave:] This won’t replace all other fuel sources, but if you own an older diesel and like to tinker, here’s the skinny: Rudolf Diesel never intended his engine to run on petroleum. It was meant to run on vegetable oil, specifically peanut oil. Diesel died under mysterious circumstances. Some see a conspiracy, some don’t; I have no clue. But it’s a fact that within a couple years of his death, the petroleum industry had ascended enough to kill any further idea of a vegetable-powered engine. Diesels can be run on practically anything that will burn. In the south Pacific, coconut producers have been running their fleets on coconut oil for years. You don’t have to modify the engine at all. What you have to do is install a system, generally attached to the cooling system (the radiator), for preheating the oil so that it flows readily through the injectors, plus an auxiliary fuel tank. The main tank is filled with vegetable oil, and the smaller tank is used for diesel fuel, which is used to warm the car up until the preheating system can take over, then a valve is operated which switches the engine from diesel to the heated vegetable oil. A few minutes before shutting the car off, the valve switches the engine back over to diesel fuel, to ready it for re-starting. This is not necessary in very warm weather. For cold climates, you can get either hot-water or electrical heating elements to warm the fuel lines. This is obviously not practical for short commutes, but my friend who does this owns a business that takes him all over southern California in his old converted Ford ambulance. For him, it is practical and practically free. He gets used oil from restaurants and runs it through two filters into 55-gallon barrels. From the second barrel (after a 5-micron filter), he hand-pumps it into the fuel tank. It cost him about $700 to convert the truck. Kits are available from $800 or so up, and you can do it for much, much less if you scrounge for parts and do it all yourself. You can always run the vehicle on diesel, and you can switch over anytime. Not bad, eh? By the way, a well-cared-for diesel engine should be good for close to half a million miles. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release 4/5/2007 3:33 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release 4/6/2007 9:30 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 We'd been talking about doing this for a couple of years and just happened to drive by it parked on the street with a for sale sign. Flipped a U-ee and snapped it up when we saw it was only $1500. Second owner, new tires, beautiful, sleek, black inside and out with the original first-aid kit still in it, along with all the original papers with impeccable maintenance. Guy we bought it from was only selling it because his wife was tired of not having more room in their garage. One of my better finds. It's really comfortable, too. And, Susan, we could rally with Willy Nelson!! (Ya know his tour bus is total biodiesel.) However, I have seen reports that biodiesel production is not as profitable as they thought it would be. Willy Nelson actually helped start a company, but they are not thriving and even he can't always find it on the road. Maybe just a little ahead of its time and it hasn't caught on yet. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria > > > On Behalf Of David Lambert > Saturday, April 07, 2007 3:04 AM > > RE: There is so much to find out > > Hey Dave, > > Rob and I bought a lovingly used '79 Mercedes Diesel 4-door > sedan for that very purpose. > > [Dave:] Aah, I'm jealous! I've wanted one for years. My > friend here in town runs a Ford truck on biodiesel. And my > friend up in the next county runs an old Ford diesel > ambulance on straight used vegetable oil he gets from > restaurants. He runs it through a 5-micron filter, and from > there it's straight into the tank. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 However, I have seen reports that biodiesel production is not as profitable as they thought it would be. Willy Nelson actually helped start a company, but they are not thriving and even he can't always find it on the road. Maybe just a little ahead of its time and it hasn't caught on yet. [Dave:] Saw my friend Tom today as a matter of fact (and he drives a Dodge, not a Ford)...he’s part of the Willy crowd and has been helping start up the company here in San Diego County. I think “not thriving” is both fair and kind. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release 4/6/2007 9:30 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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