Lemon Tea Tree and Lemon Myrtle and Boomerangs

[Guest guest]

Hi Virginia,

 

> Oh Butch,

> I wish I could find you a ridgy didge boomerang. Will keep it in

> mind as I absolutely adore Lemon Myrtle.

 

Fair it is and thanks mucho. :-)

 

> On the subject of Aussie oils - have you sniffed Blue Cypress -

> Callitris intratropica. Absolutely beautiful oil. There seems to be

> new oils appearing all the time. Also I was lucky enough to see some

> brown boronia- Boronia megastigma - growing in the bush last time I

> was down south.

 

I have sniffed the Blue Cypress and it is nice .. and right you are

that there are new oils popping up here and there .. the problem is ..

there is no safety data on them. New oils are popping up cause folks

found that an aromatic will produce an EO .. which I reckon is good

for perfumery, etc., but its kinda tricky to sell something that folks

might put on their skin in the absense of any safety data. If someone

writes me about such as oil I can't give them any warm fuzzies. ;-)

 

Was a time we could count on the IFRA to eventually collect or

generate safety data but now that they are selling out to the

synthetic folks and the EU is trying to restrict so many oils it looks

like there might be a slow down in that area.

 

> Virginia

> West Aussie

 

Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

> You betcha Podner .. Oz got some purty nice products. Another super

> nice Oz oil is Lemon Myrtle (Backhousia citriodora). Its a natural

> Big Bad Bug Butt Kicker.

>

> Sorta wishing somebody from Oz would agree to trade me one'a them

> real, authentic .. not " touristic " Oz boomerangs for some essential

> oils ...

[Guest guest]

Hi Virginia, Butch and everyone,

 

Your right, new Australian essential oils are popping up left, right and centre!

Hopefully over the years to come there will be more testing and safety data!

 

Firstly I would like to state this is not an ad, nor am I affiliated with the

following company. The following website may be of interest, a Western

Australian company (Paperbark Oils) specialising in some of our native local

treasures. I'm not sure if they sell directly to the public, however I have a

number of their oils purchased from good health food shops. Their Honey Myrtle

is delicious and reminds me of wandering through sand dunes on my way to the

beach. The Fragrant Agonis is simply lovely! Butch, Paperbark Oils state they

have GCMS analysis available for their oils.

http://www.paperbarkoils.com.au/index.html

 

Also, the following book is well recommended:

Mark A Webb, Bush Sense, Australian Essential Oil's & Aromatic Compounds,

Griffin Press, Adelaide.

http://www.bush-sense.com/

 

Funnily enough when I had a quick search for Mark Webb's website, I stumbled

across this website of Tony Burfield's which I thought might be of interest -

Tony's corrections with regard to many well known Aromatherapy books.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nodice/new/bollocks/bollocks_pagebooks.htm

 

Warm regards

Holly

(another West Aussie!)

 

 

Butch Owen

 

Friday, April 20, 2007 8:32 PM

Lemon Tea Tree and Lemon Myrtle and Boomerangs

Hi Virginia,

 

> Oh Butch,

> I wish I could find you a ridgy didge boomerang. Will keep it in

> mind as I absolutely adore Lemon Myrtle.

 

Fair it is and thanks mucho. :-)

 

> On the subject of Aussie oils - have you sniffed Blue Cypress -

> Callitris intratropica. Absolutely beautiful oil. There seems to be

> new oils appearing all the time. Also I was lucky enough to see some

> brown boronia- Boronia megastigma - growing in the bush last time I

> was down south.

 

I have sniffed the Blue Cypress and it is nice .. and right you are

that there are new oils popping up here and there .. the problem is ..

there is no safety data on them. New oils are popping up cause folks

found that an aromatic will produce an EO .. which I reckon is good

for perfumery, etc., but its kinda tricky to sell something that folks

might put on their skin in the absense of any safety data. If someone

writes me about such as oil I can't give them any warm fuzzies. ;-)

 

Was a time we could count on the IFRA to eventually collect or

generate safety data but now that they are selling out to the

synthetic folks and the EU is trying to restrict so many oils it looks

like there might be a slow down in that area.

 

> Virginia

> West Aussie

 

Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

Wow another West Aussie - great to see you here. I love the Honey Myrtle,

and also the Kunzea. If you haven't tried that you should get some -

it is divine. AFAIK Paperbark sell direct.

 

Also there is someone (from memory in the hills somewhere) who is

steam distilling sandalwood. Contact me privately if you like.

 

Virginia

West Aussie

 

Hi Virginia, Butch and everyone,

 

Your right, new Australian essential oils are popping up left, right and centre!

Hopefully over the years to come there will be more testing and safety data!

 

Firstly I would like to state this is not an ad, nor am I affiliated with the

following company. The following website may be of interest, a Western

Australian company (Paperbark Oils) specialising in some of our native local

treasures. I'm not sure if they sell directly to the public, however I have a

number of their oils purchased from good health food shops. Their Honey Myrtle

is delicious and reminds me of wandering through sand dunes on my way to the

beach. The Fragrant Agonis is simply lovely! Butch, Paperbark Oils state they

have GCMS analysis available for their oils.

http://www.paperbarkoils.com.au/index.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Butch,

It is my understanding Blue Cypress is TGA registered (for use in

arthritis I think), but I can't seem

to find the details.

Here are some links that may (or may not) be of interest.

 

http://tinyurl.com/3y25mb

 

http://tinyurl.com/2ze2og

 

http://www.bluecypress.com/products_uses.htm

 

Virginia

 

Hi Virginia,

 

 

I have sniffed the Blue Cypress and it is nice .. and right you are

that there are new oils popping up here and there .. the problem is ..

there is no safety data on them. New oils are popping up cause folks

found that an aromatic will produce an EO ..

[Guest guest]

People should be wary of using any of these untested Australian oils

*on the skin* for these reasons:

1) There are NO traditional uses to support the medicinal claims made.

The natives did not have stills.

 

2) Most of what is written about their uses is taken from the

traditional use of the herb which is VERY different in chemistry to

the oil. Most of the popular Australian authors have researched the

traditional uses of the herbs, and simply taken it for granted that

the oils will do the same job. Fundamental error indicating a lack of

knowledge on the different extracts and how to use them. Anyone can

write a book on that basis and we have suffered a mountain of that

trash in aromatherapy since the earliest books on the subject.

 

3) Most of the suppliers have invented the therapeutic uses based on

the major chemicals occuring in the oil. A highly risky piece of

guesswork and flawed chemistry as the dangerous components in

essential oils often lurk in the minor traces.

 

4) Antibacterial and antifungal effects in-vitro can never be accepted

as evidence of safety. If you put bugs into neat cinnamon bark oil it

sure will kill them, but that oil will also kill your skin cells!

 

5) Australian Government departments often rightly investigate the

potential for exporting indigenous crops. What they often fail to do

is pay for any kind of safety evaluation of those products. With many

of the oils being promoted by Australian suppliers there is NO safety

evaluation.

 

6) I have samples of several of these novel oils. Only one of them

smells pleasent, the rest smell bad to dreadful. Therefore, what on

Earth do you want to use them for when we already have well tried and

tested wondeful smelling oils?

 

Re Callitris intratropica oil and the file: na507fr.pdf

Note two things:

1. It was not tested on human skin.

2. On Guinea pigs it was classed as a " sensitiser " .

Therefore, this file is pure speculation with no sound application to

the use of this oil on humans.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, Virginia <artemesia wrote:

>

>

> Hi Butch,

> It is my understanding Blue Cypress is TGA registered (for use in

> arthritis I think), but I can't seem

> to find the details.

> Here are some links that may (or may not) be of interest.

>

> http://tinyurl.com/3y25mb

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2ze2og

>

> http://www.bluecypress.com/products_uses.htm

>

> Virginia

>

> Hi Virginia,

>

>

> I have sniffed the Blue Cypress and it is nice .. and right you are

> that there are new oils popping up here and there .. the problem is ..

> there is no safety data on them. New oils are popping up cause folks

> found that an aromatic will produce an EO ..

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Martin,

I am using most of the oils in candles (except the Kunzea). I

understand what you are saying about safety and I only use what I make

on myself.

 

Am interested to know what sample oils you sniffed. IMHO opinion

the Kunzea and Blue Cypress are beautiful oils. Lemon myrtle is more

" lemon " than lemon and is very uplifting. I also know of a well

respected Perth reflexologist who found the only thing that would calm

one of her elderly clients was the scent of Lemon Eucalyptus, which is

really surprising. Maybe it reminded him of early days in the bush -

who knows. But she said it worked every time.

 

I think there are reasons why people (well Aussies) are looking to the

Australian

oils, but don't want to open my big mouth and put my foot straight in.

 

Virginia

 

People should be wary of using any of these untested Australian oils

*on the skin* for these reasons:

1) There are NO traditional uses to support the medicinal claims made.

The natives did not have stills.