Warning: Sales of mislabeled, dangerous and synthetic goods

[Guest guest]

Hi folks,

 

I'm sending this message out special notice as I believe it is

important for everyone to be aware of what went down on the NP group

as we found the members were on this list too, possibly contacting

folks behind the scenes.

 

We've been working on the new ad day policy, and that is why I had

Vickie (one of our wonderful moderators) post the special admin notice

today about ad day.

 

I hope to have the new policy in place before Thursday so as not to

disrupt ad day for all just because of a few bad apples. I'll keep

everyone posted, but I promise - there will be only one more special

notice sent out about this!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

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NaturalPerfumery , " anyaperfumer " <anya wrote:

 

Dear Members:

 

This group has been in existence for over five years and we've never

had a problem with AD day until the past two weeks or so. All of a

sudden, we received several private messages, and there were also some

first-hand experiences of group moderators receiving horrible products

from two sellers. We were told we have to issue this notice after

conferring with an attorney due to the seriousness of the situation.

 

If you have purchased anything from either Ane " Aniba " Walsh or Poh

Yee Holmes you may have received inferior, mislabeled, hazardous, or

synthetic materials. Reports of moldy, mildewed " bee goo " that was

improperly processed by someone with no experience with it, synthetic

" mango butter " with a synthetic fragrance added to it that caused

skin/lip burns, mislabeled " benzoin " (a grey rocky material from a

completely different species of tree) and a raft of other complaints

flooded us. There was also moldy loofa that can cause skin problems.

The moldy bee goo could be very hazardous to someone with respiratory

problems.

 

Vanilla beans were sold by someone with no food handling license; this

came to our attention as she was sending out " recipes " for the beans,

not using them for perfumery purposes. Vanilla beans are easily

contaminated by salmonella and, if not handled properly in the

distribution chain, can contain hard-to-detect mold. This mold can

also grow if the beans were infused in oil.

 

Just as all this was coming to light, Poh Yee accidentally sent a

message to the moderators that was meant for Ane Walsh (they're both

on moderation) that showed how they were blatantly using the group for

marketing with no regards to ethics. The email was crass and showed a

total lack of respect for group members.

 

All this truly horrified us. It was obvious they have little sourcing

experience, and they were planning on adding new, untested materials

to their AD, along with an aggressive sales campaign. This NP

community has always relied on trust and ethics, and we have enjoyed a

great reputation as a place to source quality ingredients. In the

past, we've had no problems with posting reports of inferior goods

from suppliers, as long as the report was firsthand. This is the first

time we've had to publicly expose group members.

 

We will be initiating a new AD policy, requiring anyone selling to

have at least two years experience, intimate and comprehensive

knowledge of their products, business licenses and meeting other criteria.

 

We mods regret this sales scandal. The attorney said this Special

Notice should serve as a form of recall. If you wish, you should

request your money back from them, and discard any product to protect

yourself and your reputation, since it may be synthetic, tainted, or

improperly represented.

 

They will be notified not to write to any group member if they to

attempt to sell " behind the scenes " as this is a violation of

policy.

 

Thank you for helping us keep this group on the right track, and we

will move forward with new regs to help protect you and your aromatic

investments in the future.

 

On a more personal note, as group " mom " I have put thousands of hours

and lots of love into building this group, and it hurts me deeply to

think of the group being used in this manner. I have lost a lot of

sleep over this in the past week. I promise to go forward with a more

vigilant eye on who is selling, and urge you to contact us mods if you

have any questions about this incident, as we are here to help.

 

Sincerely,

Anya, Chris, Ruth, Liz, Patty and Julia, NP Group Moderators

 

--- End forwarded message ---

[Guest guest]

Wow, I guess I need to read my emails more often from this group. I feel

for you guys and commend you all on your chutzpah in regards to this.

 

 

Hi folks,

 

I'm sending this message out special notice as I believe it is

important for everyone to be aware of what went down on the NP group

as we found the members were on this list too, possibly contacting

folks behind the scenes.

 

We've been working on the new ad day policy, and that is why I had

Vickie (one of our wonderful moderators) post the special admin notice

today about ad day.

 

I hope to have the new policy in place before Thursday so as not to

disrupt ad day for all just because of a few bad apples. I'll keep

everyone posted, but I promise - there will be only one more special

notice sent out about this!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleo <http://www.alittleolfactory.com> lfactory.com

 

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[Guest guest]

List Mum and Moderators,

 

All I know to say is THANK YOU because you care!!!!!

 

Cindy B.

 

 

On 7/31/07, chrisziggy <chrisziggy wrote:

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I'm sending this message out special notice ...

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your dedication, many hours, and hard work!! It is much

appreciated. Especially for those of us who aren't as educated in this field

and need to rely on your expertise.

 

Karen

 

>On a more personal note, as group " mom " I have put thousands of hours and

lots of love into building this group, and it hurts me deeply to think of

the group being used in this manner. I have lost a lot of sleep over this in

the past week. I promise to go forward with a more vigilant eye on who is

selling, and urge you to contact us mods if you have any questions about

this incident, as we are here to help.

 

> Sincerely,

> Anya, Chris, Ruth, Liz, Patty and Julia, NP Group Moderators

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

What is the NP group?

Pat

 

, " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy

wrote:

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I'm sending this message out special notice as I believe it is

> important for everyone to be aware of what went down on the NP

group

> as we found the members were on this list too, possibly contacting

> folks behind the scenes.

>

> We've been working on the new ad day policy, and that is why I had

> Vickie (one of our wonderful moderators) post the special admin

notice

> today about ad day.

>

> I hope to have the new policy in place before Thursday so as not to

> disrupt ad day for all just because of a few bad apples. I'll keep

> everyone posted, but I promise - there will be only one more

special

> notice sent out about this!

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> NaturalPerfumery , " anyaperfumer " <anya@>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members:

>

> This group has been in existence for over five years and we've

never

> had a problem with AD day until the past two weeks or so. All of a

> sudden, we received several private messages, and there were also

some

> first-hand experiences of group moderators receiving horrible

products

> from two sellers. We were told we have to issue this notice after

> conferring with an attorney due to the seriousness of the

situation.

>

> If you have purchased anything from either Ane " Aniba " Walsh or Poh

> Yee Holmes you may have received inferior, mislabeled, hazardous,

or

> synthetic materials. Reports of moldy, mildewed " bee goo " that was

> improperly processed by someone with no experience with it,

synthetic

> " mango butter " with a synthetic fragrance added to it that caused

> skin/lip burns, mislabeled " benzoin " (a grey rocky material from a

> completely different species of tree) and a raft of other

complaints

> flooded us. There was also moldy loofa that can cause skin

problems.

> The moldy bee goo could be very hazardous to someone with

respiratory

> problems.

>

> Vanilla beans were sold by someone with no food handling license;

this

> came to our attention as she was sending out " recipes " for the

beans,

> not using them for perfumery purposes. Vanilla beans are easily

> contaminated by salmonella and, if not handled properly in the

> distribution chain, can contain hard-to-detect mold. This mold can

> also grow if the beans were infused in oil.

>

> Just as all this was coming to light, Poh Yee accidentally sent a

> message to the moderators that was meant for Ane Walsh (they're

both

> on moderation) that showed how they were blatantly using the group

for

> marketing with no regards to ethics. The email was crass and

showed a

> total lack of respect for group members.

>

> All this truly horrified us. It was obvious they have little

sourcing

> experience, and they were planning on adding new, untested

materials

> to their AD, along with an aggressive sales campaign. This NP

> community has always relied on trust and ethics, and we have

enjoyed a

> great reputation as a place to source quality ingredients. In the

> past, we've had no problems with posting reports of inferior goods

> from suppliers, as long as the report was firsthand. This is the

first

> time we've had to publicly expose group members.

>

> We will be initiating a new AD policy, requiring anyone selling to

> have at least two years experience, intimate and comprehensive

> knowledge of their products, business licenses and meeting other

criteria.

>

> We mods regret this sales scandal. The attorney said this Special

> Notice should serve as a form of recall. If you wish, you should

> request your money back from them, and discard any product to

protect

> yourself and your reputation, since it may be synthetic, tainted,

or

> improperly represented.

>

> They will be notified not to write to any group member if they to

> attempt to sell " behind the scenes " as this is a violation of

> policy.

>

> Thank you for helping us keep this group on the right track, and we

> will move forward with new regs to help protect you and your

aromatic

> investments in the future.

>

> On a more personal note, as group " mom " I have put thousands of

hours

> and lots of love into building this group, and it hurts me deeply

to

> think of the group being used in this manner. I have lost a lot of

> sleep over this in the past week. I promise to go forward with a

more

> vigilant eye on who is selling, and urge you to contact us mods if

you

> have any questions about this incident, as we are here to help.

>

> Sincerely,

> Anya, Chris, Ruth, Liz, Patty and Julia, NP Group Moderators

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

>