RE: OT: Snakes & Dogs or Dogs & Snakes

[Guest guest]

> Like I said .. snakes usually get a bum rap. ;-)

 

[Dave]: That is a fact. Like 'em or not, they are valuable predators.

They do more than most of us could imagine to rid us of small rodents and

other critters we prefer not to have around. And like I said before, they

REALLY don't want to encounter people if they can help it.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

guess we don't have them in Michigan or they are known by a different name

here, but I have to ask - What is a chicken snake ?? Never heard of them

and I grew up on farms

 

Paula ..... in Michigan

www.farmfreshsoapsandcandles.com

farmfreshsoapsandcandles

 

Well, when a big ole chicken snake just tried to eat my little 5lb dog,

I'm watching out for that sucker! Especially after spending about $300 in

the emergency room for the snake bite that was an inch wide! Big snake!!

We just found the skin of it the other day underneath my soap shack! I'm

4'11 " and the skin is slightly taller than me and about 2 " diameter! Big

snake!! Did I say that already? I'm not much scared of snakes, but I

will shoot this sucker!! I don't need it trying to eat my dogs or

chickens! LOL!!

[Guest guest]

>

> Since dawgs kill more stock and such than do snakes .. and cars kill

more

> folks than do snakes .. its still puzzling why most folks fear

snakes but

> don't fear dawgs and cars. ;-)

>

 

For 1 thing, it's a matter of encounters. You come in contact with

lots of cars and dogs but not that many threaten you, so on a

percentage basis, you tend not to fear them. Most people don't come

in contact with snakes at all except on TV or the movies, where they

are used always in threatening situations, so, religion aside, one's

perception is that any encounter with a snake will be deadly; whereas,

with dogs and cars, it's one in a long shot.

 

I don't like people who let their dogs bark all day and night and

don't give a crap about the disturbance of the peace, or who let them

grovel in a featureless fenced pen, looking all bleak. And in the

urban areas, when people let them shit all over the place and do

nothing about it, they also throw their cigarette butts on the ground

as if they somehow aren't trash. In suburban areas, when they let

them run wild and they run in packs and get in the gardens, the

compost, the trash cans, and they shit on the lawn.

 

Gene

in E. TN

[Guest guest]

Fear of snakes is generally irrational. My best friend is a freaker-outer

and says it's something about the way they slither, no legs just EWWW!

 

No Snake haters in this house. Kids bring them home (Mostly King snakes

which are non-venomus) and then I'll take them to school if the teacher is

agreeable and show them to the kids. I try a little education such as, " see

this pretty snake and it's stripes? Well if you see it out in the wild,

leave it alone cuz it eats rattlesnakes and helps to keep that population

down " Kids are always awed at the idea of something eating rattlesnakes.

 

We generally keep the snakes for a few weeks and then let them go back up in

the hills. the last snake we had was a big feller, about 3 feet long, a King

snake.... Kids REALLY wanted to keep this guy... I was fine until they

bought feeder mice... not happy with that.... Kids finally let the snake go

and now we have this one stupid feeder mouse left... it's the one my

daughter did NOT want to feed to the snake. Yetch.

 

Not generally freaked out by dogs either however across the street, the kid

that just graduated from high school. he got a puppy... how nice... A

MASTIFF/PIT BULL CROSS! Oh how deLIGHTful. there are 10 kids in this little

court and that idiot across the street gets a dog like that! I don't trust

an 18 year old to do anything properly let alone teach a dog, ANY kid of

dog.

 

My one big irrationality is heights. Husband thinks it's amusing. Kids just

think I'm bonkers and at that point and time... I'm completely off my NUT!!

Sigh

 

Going to look up chicken snake on google.

 

K

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[Guest guest]

> No Snake haters in this house. Kids bring them home (Mostly

> King snakes which are non-venomus) and then I'll take them to

> school if the teacher is agreeable and show them to the kids.

 

[Dave]: Kudos to you and your house!

 

> A MASTIFF/PIT BULL CROSS! Oh how

> deLIGHTful. there are 10 kids in this little court and that

> idiot across the street gets a dog like that! I don't trust

> an 18 year old to do anything properly let alone teach a dog

 

[Dave]: Well, I love both mastiffs and pit bulls. We raised bullmastiffs

when I was growing up. I've had a couple pits. They're wonderful dogs, but

like chow chows, rotweillers, and some others, it takes a certain kind of

person to have a dog like that. You have to have a little bit of lion tamer

in you. You MUST be than animal's master, 100%, otherwise you're asking for

it.

 

However, asking for it doesn't mean you're gonna get it. Probably 99% of

the owners of the dogs listed above never have a problem. But when a dog

mauls a child, it seems like it's always one of the above. Biggest mistake

you can make is to acquire an animal just because you think it boosts your

image.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I've had a few pits too and right now we have 1 that is pit/German Shepard

and another that is pit/black lab/chow. My oldest son has a pit/mastiff

mix and is the biggest baby I have ever seen ! He's even afraid of the dark

! LOL The best dogs I have had are those that are a pit mix. I am now on

total disability and we live out in the country. These 2 are the best guard

dogs you could ever want. My Louise is never far from my side.

 

Paula ..... in Michigan

www.farmfreshsoapsandcandles.com

farmfreshsoapsandcandles

 

>

> [Dave]: Well, I love both mastiffs and pit bulls. We raised bullmastiffs

> when I was growing up. I've had a couple pits. They're wonderful dogs,

but

> like chow chows, rotweillers, and some others, it takes a certain kind of

> person to have a dog like that. You have to have a little bit of lion

tamer

> in you. You MUST be than animal's master, 100%, otherwise you're asking

for

> it.

>

> However, asking for it doesn't mean you're gonna get it. Probably 99% of

> the owners of the dogs listed above never have a problem. But when a dog

> mauls a child, it seems like it's always one of the above. Biggest

mistake

> you can make is to acquire an animal just because you think it boosts your

> image.

>

[Guest guest]

> The best

> dogs I have had are those that are a pit mix.

 

[Dave]: I wouldn't argue a bit with that. Having been more urban during

much of my life, I was thinking of sorts I've known and those I've observed,

with an aggressive swagger and a lust for bling. A dog automatically looks

for a leader, and if its owner is aggressive, the dog will pick up on that

for sure. If said pet owner fails to realize and own the effect he has on

his animal, sometimes trouble arises.

 

One of my favorite dogs of all time was a white boxer/pit mix I called Girl.

She was actually one of the ugliest dogs I've ever seen, with a skull that

looked like a rock with barracuda teeth. She was a sweetie. But there was

no fence built she couldn't take, and that's how I lost her. A year later I

saw her walking on a leash in another part of town. Girl could move so fast

it was amazing, and I saw her take a bird from a lying-down position more

than once.

 

 

 

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