Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hey Kathleen, > Okay, so you're way ahead of me and how the heck could one NOT know that > those trees needed cross pollination... SHEESH! > Lotsa folks don't know lotsa things we know .. and maybe know lotsa things we don't know. ;-) About your veggies and such, I'm mentioning this on the very slight off > chance that it hasn't occurred to you... Raised beds. Makes the changing > acidity etc much more manageable and you can make them the size to suit > your > reach, gardeing habits etc... stay away from old railway ties... I mention > this not really for you but for others who are told that they make great > bedding edges... they are full of toxins which will leach into your garden > patch. > Been considering raised beds for some things .. spreading them across the back of the property so they look good. On old RR ties .. almost all are pine treated with creosote. I grew up in Guthrie, KY .. population 1,250. Half the folks in town worked at Koppers Company, a Creosote treatment plant. Koppers took over in the 50s from Bond Brothers .. they had run the plant since the early 1920s. We inhaled creosote daily .. I even fell into a pond of creosote when I was around 12 .. it was a catch basin with inches of soil on it .. even had grass growing in the soil .. it caved in like quick sand. My stepfather, his father and uncle and his brother and his son all worked there. Many folks in Guthrie died of respiratory illnesses and/or cancer. As far as I know, Koppers is still using creosote to treat cross ties. http://www.ohsworks.com/koppers/koppersdata/koppers_na/msds/00228/00228327000220\ 003.PDF Now I like a person who is organized to have everything written down in a > book, I don't have it in me for that kind of organization but it sure > makes > it easy to see what one needs in the line of flowers! > Agree .. I'm not such a person either. ;-) Have fun with it, sounds like you're way ahead... oh, if you're a night > on > the porch person, don't forget your moon flowers, night blooming jasmine > etc... gardens aren't just for the day time. ;-) > I'm an outside person for sure .. winter or summer I prefer outside. Hadn't thought of Jasmine but I'm thinking of it now .. thanks. ;-) > And hummers are pigs! Gorgeous antisocial PIGS! ;-) If hummers ruled the > world... they wouldn't, it would be complete and total anarchy! LOL > K > Pigs they are but mine are not antisocial .. they're playful as can be. They roost in the trees until we come outside then they buzz us .. hover in front of our faces even. When we're changing the feeder they zip past our faces .. inches away. For a while I thought they were chasing each other in anger but now I believe they are just playing grab a$$. ;-) > > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com <http://www.woobeyworld.com/> > Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 stay away from old railway ties... I mention > this not really for you but for others who are told that they make great > bedding edges... they are full of toxins which will leach into your garden > patch. I learned this the hard way. Taking my dogs on at least two walks a day I wondered why they were showing signs of poisoning until I realised it was only when we walked along the railway track that any symptoms appeared. No railway walks, no illness. Cheers. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 We also need to be saving our honey bee's,finding out what is killing them,because if not ,we won't be around much longer. All of us need to be writing our local newspapers asking people not to be using sprays on the crops,flowers, even trees,if not ,nothing will be left without the Bee's. bugs - Butch Owen Friday, September 21, 2007 11:52 PM OT: Planting Suggestions For Butch Hey Kathleen, > Okay, so you're way ahead of me and how the heck could one NOT know that > those trees needed cross pollination... SHEESH! > Lotsa folks don't know lotsa things we know .. and maybe know lotsa things we don't know. ;-) About your veggies and such, I'm mentioning this on the very slight off > chance that it hasn't occurred to you... Raised beds. Makes the changing > acidity etc much more manageable and you can make them the size to suit > your > reach, gardeing habits etc... stay away from old railway ties... I mention > this not really for you but for others who are told that they make great > bedding edges... they are full of toxins which will leach into your garden > patch. > Been considering raised beds for some things .. spreading them across the back of the property so they look good. On old RR ties .. almost all are pine treated with creosote. I grew up in Guthrie, KY .. population 1,250. Half the folks in town worked at Koppers Company, a Creosote treatment plant. Koppers took over in the 50s from Bond Brothers .. they had run the plant since the early 1920s. We inhaled creosote daily .. I even fell into a pond of creosote when I was around 12 .. it was a catch basin with inches of soil on it .. even had grass growing in the soil .. it caved in like quick sand. My stepfather, his father and uncle and his brother and his son all worked there. Many folks in Guthrie died of respiratory illnesses and/or cancer. As far as I know, Koppers is still using creosote to treat cross ties. http://www.ohsworks.com/koppers/koppersdata/koppers_na/msds/00228/00228327000220\ 003.PDF Now I like a person who is organized to have everything written down in a > book, I don't have it in me for that kind of organization but it sure > makes > it easy to see what one needs in the line of flowers! > Agree .. I'm not such a person either. ;-) Have fun with it, sounds like you're way ahead... oh, if you're a night > on > the porch person, don't forget your moon flowers, night blooming jasmine > etc... gardens aren't just for the day time. ;-) > I'm an outside person for sure .. winter or summer I prefer outside. Hadn't thought of Jasmine but I'm thinking of it now .. thanks. ;-) > And hummers are pigs! Gorgeous antisocial PIGS! ;-) If hummers ruled the > world... they wouldn't, it would be complete and total anarchy! LOL > K > Pigs they are but mine are not antisocial .. they're playful as can be. They roost in the trees until we come outside then they buzz us .. hover in front of our faces even. When we're changing the feeder they zip past our faces .. inches away. For a while I thought they were chasing each other in anger but now I believe they are just playing grab a$$. ;-) > > -- > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com <http://www.woobeyworld.com/> > Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 One last thing on the night garden, Evening primrose and flowering tobacco.... Here's a link to all kinds of flowers that bloom at night... I'm going to try and keep this page for when I move. http://www.onlinediscountmart.com/night-blooming-garden.html K On 9/21/07, Butch Owen <butchowen wrote: > > . > > > -- Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 > We also need to be saving our honey bee's,finding out what is > killing them,because if not ,we won't be around much longer. [Dave]: It's basically the industrial way of raising bees that is killing them indirectly. Small, organic beekeepers are not having a problem. Find ways to support local beekeepers. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1023 - Release 9/22/2007 1:27 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did anyone get the link I sent and article about the honey bees. It is now thought by scientists that it is the Aussie honey bee killing off the populations of other bees in localities the are exported to. - " David Lambert " <dlmbrt Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:02 AM RE: OT: Planting Suggestions For Butch > >> We also need to be saving our honey bee's,finding out what is >> killing them,because if not ,we won't be around much longer. > > [Dave]: It's basically the industrial way of raising bees that is killing > them indirectly. Small, organic beekeepers are not having a problem. > Find > ways to support local beekeepers. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Hey Butch, You've been away for a while and might not know that commercial timbers for raised beds sold at most garden stores/home depots, etc. are treated with arsenic . . . Yes, you heard me right. Lots of folks up in arms about that; creosote was bad enough to contend with in gardens. If you have any timber on your property you might part with, consider hiring a portable sawyer to come in and mill you some of your own. Fairly inexpensive when compared to buying the lumber itself. We did that with two cedars we had to take out and now have lovely timbers and rails on a couple of new decks. I already had raised beds, so didn't need those. Other alternative would be to purchase direct to the lumber mill to insure untreated ones. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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