Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 YOU GO BUTCH!!!!!!!! I knew we'd hear from you on this. Read the whole thing - every word. That would make a great sermon in many churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. (any religion). Here's my two cents: I like to remember and remind others who point back to the forefathers, that when Benjamin Franklin exited the constitutional convention, he was approached by a group asking what sort of government the delegates had created. He responded " A republic, if you can keep it. " I'd like to know how many who have posted to this topic have actually READ the constitution???!!!! I can pick out many often when they 'quote' separation of church and state, because THAT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!!! It was in a letter later written by Thomas Jefferson. This thread started because of a public school issue and THAT is where the problem lies. Americans rely on the public babysitting institution. They turned their faces away from what was being taught there long ago - they didn't have time to be bothered. Those who have come up in that system are now making our laws and changing our country - and they don't know or care what it was founded on. It was easy to replace EDUCATION with INDOCTRINATION when no one was looking. If the public school system educated our children, I would have used it. But I knew better. I did MY homework. We educated our children at home. OH! Now you could assume that that goes along with the hippie thing, or you might think that it places us in the fundamentalist right-wing Christian camp. You'd be wrong on both accounts. Like you Butch, I'm a die-hard Southuna (from Charleston, SC). My great-great grandfather fought in the revolutionary war under Francis Marion. I wanted to make sure that my kids had a real education, not a bunch of flim-flam socilazation. Oh, they were plenty socialized. One of the first questions we'd get from people was 'what about socialization?' See, people already have fallen to the idea that the purpose of schools is to socialize. But have you ever seen a bunch of 5 year olds teach each other table manners??? Public education was the beginning of the end of this country. It's a slow disease, but if we don't take back control, just like our healthcare, it will eventually kill us. Thanks again Butch, we have more in common than you know. Bonnie Breeder of Naturally Raised German Shepherd Dogs (and Southuna from Chawlston) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 This whole thing is much ado about nothing. Although it has been reported and rehashed on many blogs, there was never any movement to ban any holiday celebrations. That school is are considering adding a celebration for a muslim holiday in a school that has 1/3 muslim students. No one ever suggested banning of Christmas. Just because it is reported on the web or shows up on TV, it doesn't mean it is true. Sorry, this should be a dead issue, but I get annoyed when anyone gets their knickers in a twist over some rumor blown out of proportion and everyone gets upset about what " they " are trying to do. And it flies around the web getting blown up and added too. Joanne , " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote: > Nobody is going to succeed in banning celebrations of Christmas or Ramadan > or Rosh Hasana or any other religious holiday. They might stop the > expenditure of public funds for such celebrations .. and I will agree with > that .. but it must be dealt with on a case by case basis. States Rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Hi, I was the original poster for this thread, your right this is a dead issue, so everyone please untwist your nickers and lets move on.. Shame on the Chicago Times for posting the " Rumor " to begin with.. Carol shupy3 wrote: > > This whole thing is much ado about nothing. Although it has been > reported and rehashed on many blogs, there was never any movement to > ban any holiday celebrations. That school is are considering adding > a celebration for a muslim holiday in a school that has 1/3 muslim > students. No one ever suggested banning of Christmas. Just because > it is reported on the web or shows up on TV, it doesn't mean it is > true. > Sorry, this should be a dead issue, but I get annoyed when anyone > gets their knickers in a twist over some rumor blown out of > proportion and everyone gets upset about what " they " are trying to > do. And it flies around the web getting blown up and added too. > Joanne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 , " shupy3 " <jwittenbrook wrote: > > This whole thing is much ado about nothing. Although it has been > reported and rehashed on many blogs, there was never any movement to ban any holiday celebrations. Why any Christian would get upset over something like this is beyond me. As a Christian, Jesus, God and His word lives in my heart and no " they " or anyone can ever take that away from me. As a Christian I have come to dislike the Christmas " Holiday " . I give all year long to those that are needy, to my family, to my friends and making a holiday that means I must give a gift and expects me to give...rubs me the wrong way. Giving needs to come from the heart not from forced obligation. It may be nice to celebrate the birth of Jesus but everyday is a holiday to any Christian that truly has God in his/her heart. That school is are considering adding > a celebration for a muslim holiday in a school that has 1/3 muslim > students. No one ever suggested banning of Christmas. Just because > it is reported on the web or shows up on TV, it doesn't mean it is > true. > Sorry, this should be a dead issue, but I get annoyed when anyone > gets their knickers in a twist over some rumor blown out of > proportion and everyone gets upset about what " they " are trying to > do. And it flies around the web getting blown up and added too. Who is the establishment? Is there an establishment? Is there a law of the Land? What was the basis of the laws of this country? One does not have to travel far, Washing DC will do, and go to the Capital building and you will clearly see that the foundation of this country was taken from some basic principles found in a very well known book. If you need help with that let me know off line. I guess those that went before us were not as smart as we are. After all we are more advanced...if we had the opportunity look at the country we could form. I knew more then my parents when I was 11, just think how much smarter I am today. Maybe just Maybe some things should not be changed. Sorry, I am really going off. John www.AncientHealingOils.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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