Olive Oils ** Was ** Oil Base

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Howdy Dave,

 

> >.. or they buy the cheaper Italian Riviera .. which (in

> > my opinion) is not even fit for making soap .. Olive Oil

> > Pomace is even better than Riviera for this purpose.

>

> [Dave]: Thanks for the good info on American vs European olive

oil. Made

> me go look in my soaping cupboard to see what I had.

 

Welcome you are fer'shur.

 

> Usually I use pomace oil even though I know it's

> hexane-extracted. I'm not real happy about it but I don't

> think any solvent residue in a wash-off product is going to be

> really significant - and it's upwards of $28 a gallon at a

> restaurant supply.

 

Couple of things .. 1st: Hexane is not dangerous when we consider

the small amount left in a product .. many folks get that much from

various cooking oils that are made with Hexane. 2nd: There are

different grades of Pomace .. and different methods used to produce

them. Back when, I had 10 tons of WATER extracted Pomice Oil from

Turkey .. it too sold out. I can't get more now. Also .. the

Pomace you are getting from a Restaurant Supply store is food grade.

Its the same Pomace that almost all Pizzerias use .. they do not use

Olive Oil .. they use Pomace.

 

> But it makes a great soap! Lately I've had all the EVOO and

> coconut oils I can use because we've had a few cases come in with

> leakers.

 

That can happen. When I shipped my household goods from Turkey I had

2 each 5 kilo cans of quality X-Virgin I wanted to ship .. the movers

told me that if it leaked they would have no liability for the

damages. I had a feller cut the top out of a 25 kilo barrel .. then

wrapped the cans with plastic .. put them in the barrel with

Styrofoam popcorn .. and he welded the top back on. I cut the top

off the barrel off with a torch .. here in Tennessee .. there had

been a bit of seepage from the can lids .. they screw on .. but no

damage to the household goods.

 

If I get the Early Harvest X-Virgin I wrote of yesterday it will come

in more substantial barrels.

 

> What I have on hand is Spectrum Organic Cold-Pressed Mediterranean

OO, which

> according to the label is a product of Tunisia, and I have Bella

Italia

> Organic EVOO which has an address in Napoli on the label and

carries both

> the USDA and the Euro BioAgriCert organic labels. I have a big

bottle of

> estate-bottled organic EVOO too, but I'm cooking with that.

 

Spectrum is a big outfit but they are not a producer .. they buy in

bulk from around the world and rebottle in their label. I know

nothing of their quality .. it should have information on the label.

 

> One thing I find very confusing is the variety of organic coconut

oils

> available and the huge disparity in price from one brand to the

next.

 

I offer Virgin Coconut .. its not an oil .. and Fractionated

Coconut. But I know little about either of them. The Virgin tastes

good .. that I know. ;-)

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

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> Couple of things .. 1st: Hexane is not dangerous when we

> consider the small amount left in a product .. many folks get

> that much from various cooking oils that are made with

> Hexane.

 

[Dave]: I know this and you know this, but the natchal soap crowd doesn't

like sech thangs.

 

> Also .. the

> Pomace you are getting from a Restaurant Supply store is food grade.

> Its the same Pomace that almost all Pizzerias use .. they do

> not use Olive Oil .. they use Pomace.

 

[Dave]: Exactly. That's the stuff. I wish I could get an even lower

grade. All olive oil makes wonderful soap of course, but The bottom of the

barrel seems to work best for soap making. I've always believe EVOO in soap

is a waste, except for the cachet on the label.

 

> I offer Virgin Coconut .. its not an oil .. and Fractionated

> Coconut. But I know little about either of them. The Virgin tastes

> good .. that I know. ;-)

 

[Dave]: Great for cooking, good for you, pretty much necessary for

soapmaking. I use organic, but the cheapest I can get.

 

 

 

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