OT: Medical Service Rip Offs ** Was: Butch

[Guest guest]

Howdy Zo,

 

> I do love to read your " rants & raves " . You say so well what

> drives me up the wall.

 

Thankee ma'am .. I reckon that in a few minutes I'm gonna lay low on

list for a while. Feller dumped 20 tons of top soil on my back lot;

4 piles of 5 tons each. It really is not a lotta soil but its enough

that I learned quickly that a shovel and a 10 cubic foot trailer was

not the way to move it around .. so I'm gonna go rent a small Kabota

Tractor with front loader and box blade on the rear so I can do job

without killing myself. ;-)

 

> If you go to one Dr, you have to have x-rays but goodness if you

> have to go to another one he has to take his own and on and on it

> goes.

 

I had X-Rays around 2 years ago .. Chiropractor in Clarksville, TN ..

we were traveling around the USA then. He charged but would not

give them to me. But he fixed my Sciatic problem well so I did not

argue. It bothered me a bit because I knew I would not be going back

to him .. so I wanted to keep what I had paid for.

 

> Absolutely a rip off. It pleases me that you can get your

way....more power

> to you.

 

A rip off it is for sure .. and thanks. But I am not sure I will be

able to get my way .. just sure that I will make life difficult for

some of them if I don't. After spreading this soil I gotta till up

my garden for next Spring. Bought a rear tine tiller and have

started doing it already. We have a lotta clay and this ground has

probably never been tilled so it is not easy and I am even now

feeling like my Sciatic problems are coming back .. so I might get to

see if the local Chiropractor tries to pull the same thing on the X-

Rays. If that is the case I might say nothing because if necessary,

I will use the same Chiropractor again some day. ;-)

 

> Zo

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

[Guest guest]

Hey Butch,

That sounds like fun to me. I want to come down there and move that

dirt around. Tell you what, I'll bring the beer if you let me drive

that little tractor...lol

John

 

 

, " Butch Owen " <butchowen

wrote:

>

> Howdy Zo,

>

> > I do love to read your " rants & raves " . You say so well what

> > drives me up the wall.

>

> Thankee ma'am .. I reckon that in a few minutes I'm gonna lay low

on

> list for a while. Feller dumped 20 tons of top soil on my back

lot;

> 4 piles of 5 tons each. It really is not a lotta soil but its

enough

> that I learned quickly that a shovel and a 10 cubic foot trailer

was

> not the way to move it around .. so I'm gonna go rent a small

Kabota

> Tractor with front loader and box blade on the rear so I can do job

> without killing myself. ;-)

>

> > If you go to one Dr, you have to have x-rays but goodness if you

> > have to go to another one he has to take his own and on and on it

> > goes.

>

> I had X-Rays around 2 years ago .. Chiropractor in Clarksville,

TN ..

> we were traveling around the USA then. He charged but would not

> give them to me. But he fixed my Sciatic problem well so I did not

> argue. It bothered me a bit because I knew I would not be going

back

> to him .. so I wanted to keep what I had paid for.

>

> > Absolutely a rip off. It pleases me that you can get your

> way....more power

> > to you.

>

> A rip off it is for sure .. and thanks. But I am not sure I will

be

> able to get my way .. just sure that I will make life difficult for

> some of them if I don't. After spreading this soil I gotta till up

> my garden for next Spring. Bought a rear tine tiller and have

> started doing it already. We have a lotta clay and this ground has

> probably never been tilled so it is not easy and I am even now

> feeling like my Sciatic problems are coming back .. so I might get

to

> see if the local Chiropractor tries to pull the same thing on the X-

> Rays. If that is the case I might say nothing because if

necessary,

> I will use the same Chiropractor again some day. ;-)

>

> > Zo

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-)

>

> Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

>

[Guest guest]

Those are your records and you should have at the very least a copy of

them.

 

Jennifer

 

Doctors like to think that it is their information. It is not. It is

your information. If you request it. You should be given it.

 

I don't know too much about the law that governs that, but I do know a

heck of a lot about HIPAA.

[Guest guest]

Hey Butch,

 

Haven't forgotten I owe you a private response to our last discourse . . .as

you might say, I'm busier than a one-legged man in a kick-ass contest! :-)

 

I've been scanning through this thread and have a quick comment . . . There

is a movement afoot to have medical records belong to the patient, not the

doctor, which makes sense. You would then be responsible for giving copies

to any health professional you see - and you will become more informed and

pay better attention to what they contain. The only way to survive the

current healthcare climate is to know exactly what is going on with your own

self, understand diagnoses, and research any meds prescribed . . . AND share

alternative treatments you may want to try prior to just going along with a

prescription drug. Don't let the docs rush you out of the

interview/appointment - you might be surprised how many docs are becoming

more informed about preventative/alternative care, but I have to agree that

it's more like a production line than real two-way communication with some

of them.

 

As it is now, you CAN demand that doctors forward records to a new doc and

if things like x-rays and other tests are within a certain time frame, the

new doc should accept and use them. Just squawk about overuse of x-rays and

radiation dangers; that'll get them to cooperate.

 

Myriad reasons the system is now broken . . . But I'm optimistic that we can

improve for the future with a combination of solutions.

 

Marcia Elston/Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence

http://www.wingedseed.com

http://www.aromaconnection.org

" Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide and slavery - have

resulted from obedience, not disobedience. "

Howard Zinn

 

 

>

>

> On Behalf Of Butch Owen

> Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:05 PM

>

> OT: Medical Service Rip Offs ** Was: Butch

>

> Howdy Zo,

>

> > I do love to read your " rants & raves " . You say so well

> what drives

> > me up the wall.

>

> Thankee ma'am .. I reckon that in a few minutes I'm gonna lay low on

> list for a while. Feller dumped 20 tons of top soil on my back lot;

> 4 piles of 5 tons each. It really is not a lotta soil but

> its enough that I learned quickly that a shovel and a 10

> cubic foot trailer was not the way to move it around .. so

> I'm gonna go rent a small Kabota Tractor with front loader

> and box blade on the rear so I can do job without killing myself. ;-)

>

> > If you go to one Dr, you have to have x-rays but goodness

> if you have

> > to go to another one he has to take his own and on and on it goes.

>

> I had X-Rays around 2 years ago .. Chiropractor in Clarksville, TN ..

> we were traveling around the USA then. He charged but would not

> give them to me. But he fixed my Sciatic problem well so I

> did not argue. It bothered me a bit because I knew I would

> not be going back to him .. so I wanted to keep what I had paid for.

>

> > Absolutely a rip off. It pleases me that you can get your

> way....more power

> > to you.

>

> A rip off it is for sure .. and thanks. But I am not sure I

> will be able to get my way .. just sure that I will make life

> difficult for some of them if I don't. After spreading this

> soil I gotta till up my garden for next Spring. Bought a

> rear tine tiller and have started doing it already. We have

> a lotta clay and this ground has probably never been tilled

> so it is not easy and I am even now feeling like my Sciatic

> problems are coming back .. so I might get to see if the

> local Chiropractor tries to pull the same thing on the X-

> Rays. If that is the case I might say nothing because if

> necessary, I will use the same Chiropractor again some day. ;-)

>

> > Zo

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-)

>

> Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

>

>

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