Olive Oil ** Slippery Business: The Trade in Adulterated Olive Oil

[Guest guest]

Hey Ien .. other good folks ..

 

> SH & ^%! Thanks so much for this alert.

> Funny, one would think hazelnut oil would be

> an expensive specialty item.

 

Naaa ... the entire Black Sea Coast of Turkey has long been the

world's largest producer of Hazelnuts .. if one wants to buy it by the

ton they can get it for around $2.50 a pound .. shipping costs are

higher than the oil itself .. IF .. one doesn't ship in a large

volume. Extra Virgin Olive Oil .. if purchased by the ton will run

you around $6.50 .. same shipping conditions apply.

 

> We use Olive oil all the time. I just get it

> extra virgin grocery store brand.

 

Read the labels well .. especially the fine print on the rear label.

Not sure what your rules are in Canada but in the USA one can legally

market an adulterated Extra Virgin Olive Oil as long as they say its

adulterated .. the trick is to have a monstrous declaration on the

front that it contains 100% Pure Extra Virgin Olive Oil .. and on the

back .. in verrrrrrrrrry small print .. it will say something like ..

mixed with X % of something else.

 

> Are you telling me this might NOT be

> the real thing?

 

Perzackly!! I've been telling this to folks on this and other lists

for many years now .. but folks don't pay a lotta attention until its

published by some media source. ;-) Some of the many posts I made

are listed below .. they are in the archive of this News Group.

 

Was a time when I had to have about as much expertise in the area of

Olive Oil as I do in Rose Otto and the Origanums .. I had to gain that

experience because I was into commodities trading then and even after

I got out of that and into only natural products I was laying big

bucks on the line to import Olive products to the USA. And it was

after this European fiasco that it became next to impossible to obtain

bulk Early Harvest Extra Virgin Olive Oil from Turkey .. which as far

as I know, is the ONLY source for Early Harvest X-Virgin .. and for

water extracted Pomace. I've been out of stock for years and folks

who continue to write probably don't really understand when I tell

them there are political issues to be overcome .. those issues are ..

Turkey tightened their requirements for export in bulk in an attempt

to put the habeus slamus on this illegal trade. Quality Turkish

Extra Virgin and Early Harvest Extra Virgin was being mixed with lower

quality Italian Olive Oils and sold as Italian Extra Virgin .. some of

this was not illegal in that the EU recognizes " Valued Added " ..

meaning an animal hide shipped from Iran to England and made into a

belt becomes an Origin England belt. This is allowed when the value

of the final product exceeds the original value of the raw materials

by a certain percent .. or .. when the purpose for which the product

will be used has changed. Bertolli was/is one large company that

did/does? this.

 

The Turkish government has always been rather nationalistic about

protecting what they see as " National Treasures. " The reason for

this is because the corrupt Ottoman Sultans allowed the West to rape

Turkey .. many of their ancient artifacts are in Western museums ..

and when Ataturk created the Republic of Turkey he went after those

artifacts .. the government today is still following Ataturk's road

with a lot of zeal. The Sivas Kangal sheep dog and the Van swimming

cat are two animals that can't be exported .. but they are in the USA

as Anatolian Shepherd and Akbas .. and Van Kitty. This mentality is

what drove them to protect Turkish high quality Extra Virgin Olive

Oil.

 

It was in early January 2002 that I sold the last of my Early Harvest

Extra Virgin Olive Oil ..

http://health./message/4191 ..

ever since then folks been bugging me to get more. ;-)

 

This is but one of the many posts where I told folks about the Italian

problem .. http://health./message/12142

 

Here is a post from April 2007 ..

http://health./message/46994

 

And a couple from October 2007 .. and I am still working on getting

some more of the 10 Star product.

 

http://health./message/49872

 

http://health./message/49908

 

> Moreover, I avoid soy oils like the plague.

> This really gets my dander up.

 

Caveat Emptor!

 

> By the way, what is a dander? What does

> it look like when it is down?

 

I musta missed the reference but I think you are referring to

something written about one having their " dander up " . It basically

means getting angry or upset .. though the exact origin can be

confusing. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/get-your-dander-up.html

 

> Ien in the Kootenays, who has not had coffee,

> breakfast or algae yet and needs to get out

> of here before she starts babbling incoherently

> http://freegreenliving.com (blog)

 

Slept late last night .. worked on the PC till after 10 then watched a

couple of good movies .. I miss good American movies. Sacked out

around 2:30 and got up around 10:30 and am even now still sucking on

some gud ol Maxwell House coffee spiked with a bit of Hazelnut coffee.

Rained for 4 days and was clear Thursday and Friday so I reckon my

ground is dry enough to till a bit .. so me and Alexander (my helper

and demanding supervisor) are gonna go out and do a bitta work ..

leastways its work for me .. its play for him. ;-)

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

 

Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO and Rose Products, Tested Hydrosols and

other nice goodies shipped to you from our store/warehouse in Downtown

Friendsville, Maryland .. Pop: 597

[Guest guest]

, " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote:

 

<snipped>

 

> Read the labels well .. especially the fine print on the rear label.

> Not sure what your rules are in Canada but in the USA one can legally

> market an adulterated Extra Virgin Olive Oil as long as they say its

> adulterated .. the trick is to have a monstrous declaration on the

> front that it contains 100% Pure Extra Virgin Olive Oil .. and on the

> back .. in verrrrrrrrrry small print .. it will say something like ..

> mixed with X % of something else.

 

Hi Butch,

 

You are totally correct .. bad thing is, too many brands are NOT

disclosing this info on the labels. Front back, big or small, its not

on there anywhere at all (all of a sudden I feel like Dr. Seuss .

 

Its downright scandalous! We got the FDA involved in our local issue,

and they even told us, sadly ours was not an isolated incident!

 

Thank goodness for saponification values. We were able to tell with

one batch of soap this stuff was not right!

 

Now in all fairness, I have seen olive blends marked properly and all

the ingredients listed. Its the stuff that doesn't have the real

ingredients disclosed that I have a beef with (and the gov't

apparently does too).

 

Caveat emptor!!!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

A Little Ol'Factory - Since 1999

Organic 100% Extra Virgin Olive Liquid Soap

Made From TESTED TO BE PURE OLIVE OIL

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

CZ Luxe

Luxurious natural delights

http://www.czluxe.com/

[Guest guest]

that is quite disturbing to know that people are adulterating olive oil.

 

i immediately went to check my 4 litre can of olive oil after reading this

thread. mine states 'extra virgin olive oil' and then underneath '100% pure,

first cold pressed'

 

there is a nutritional breakdown on the side. no statements abt being

adulterated, although my olive oil is from spain, and there is a spanish

logo and an 'international olive oil council' logo on there. it says,

'product of spain produced and packed in spain for 'congafoods' (which is an

australian company)

 

this was the most expensive olive oil i could find in the supermarket

(luckily for me it was on sale when I bought it), but based on that info

(price and the logos), I assumed that it was kosher.

 

but after reading abt unsound practices, i can't help but be a little

worried. does anyone know abt this particular olive oil? It's branded

'moro'. and i am in australia.

 

 

> <%40>,

> " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote:

>

> <snipped>

>

>

> > Read the labels well .. especially the fine print on the rear label.

> > Not sure what your rules are in Canada but in the USA one can legally

> > market an adulterated Extra Virgin Olive Oil as long as they say its

> > adulterated .. the trick is to have a monstrous declaration on the

> > front that it contains 100% Pure Extra Virgin Olive Oil .. and on the

> > back .. in verrrrrrrrrry small print .. it will say something like ..

> > mixed with X % of something else.

>

> Butch,

[Guest guest]

OK, I have the bottle right here.

Western Family brand, cold pressed extra virgin,

imported from Italy, created for Overwaitea foods..

 

On the back it just has some information

about how Olive oil may get cloudy if it gets cold.

I don't see anything about other ingredients.

 

Does this mean it is OK, or just that they are

lying?

 

Gosh, being a savvy consumer is turning into

a full time job!

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't know about Australia, but here you can check on the FDA list for

adulturated oil. I bought some that said 100% Olive Oil. It had olives

on the front of the can. I was making soap with it and my soap was

coming out funky. I had it tested and it was mostly Soybean Oil!! I

turned them into the FDA and I believe they are now on the FDA list as

well. Even if it says 100% Olive Oil and everything looks " kosher " , you

might want to have it tested.

 

HTH,

 

Nikie Brown

After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Bath Products

http://www.aftertherayne.com

nbrown

936-203-3188

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Susanna

Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:26 PM

 

Re: Re: Olive Oil ** Slippery Business: The

Trade in Adulterated Olive Oil

 

 

that is quite disturbing to know that people are adulterating olive oil.

 

i immediately went to check my 4 litre can of olive oil after reading

this thread. mine states 'extra virgin olive oil' and then underneath

'100% pure, first cold pressed'

 

there is a nutritional breakdown on the side. no statements abt being

adulterated, although my olive oil is from spain, and there is a spanish

logo and an 'international olive oil council' logo on there. it says,

'product of spain produced and packed in spain for 'congafoods' (which

is an australian company)

 

this was the most expensive olive oil i could find in the supermarket

(luckily for me it was on sale when I bought it), but based on that info

(price and the logos), I assumed that it was kosher.

 

but after reading abt unsound practices, i can't help but be a little

worried. does anyone know abt this particular olive oil? It's branded

'moro'. and i am in australia.

 

 

>

> <%40>,

> " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote:

>

> <snipped>

>

>

> > Read the labels well .. especially the fine print on the rear label.

 

> > Not sure what your rules are in Canada but in the USA one can

> > legally market an adulterated Extra Virgin Olive Oil as long as they

 

> > say its adulterated .. the trick is to have a monstrous declaration

> > on the front that it contains 100% Pure Extra Virgin Olive Oil ..

> > and on the back .. in verrrrrrrrrry small print .. it will say

> > something like .. mixed with X % of something else.

>

> Butch,

 

 

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