Guest guest Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Howdy Y'all, This will be my first Thanksgiving in the USA in maybe 17-18 years .. and after having spent more than half my life abroad I feel blessed to be Back Home now. I wanna wish all you good folks a very Happy and Safe Thanksgiving. Likely it is that I'll not get on the net till late tomorrow and even then I might doze off at the keyboard cause we'l;l be cooking and consuming a 12 + pound Turkey Boid .. along with stuffing, sweet taters, smashed taters, gravy, peas, corn, cranberry sauce, cornbread. apple and Key Lime pie .. and a few other trimmings. Sorta funny was our shopping trip a few days ago .. I put a Turkey into the cart and Tanya commented that it was a bit big for the three of us .. considering that Alexander isn't gonna eat all that much .. but I told her it was really a small Turkey. Later, she threw a 9 + pound Goose into the cart .. and I thought that was great cause Goose is the traditional Boid for Christmas dinner in Russia. Got home and she was checking the bill and was surprised that the Turkey cost us but $13.84 .. $1.09 a pound .. but more surprised were both of us when we saw that the Goose cost $43.17 .. $4.38 a pound. She thought the Turkey was gonna cost fortune cause they are expensive in Russia .. and thought the Goose would be cheap cause they are cheap in Russia .. and that just goes to show that what we see is sometimes shaded by our past expereinces .. or interpretation of same. A couple of Thanksgiving Day thoughts I'll share with you. I realize that this message is from a Conservative point of view .. I tried to find an alternative slant but, fortunately, I could not. Perhaps someone else will send one .. based on their interpretation of how things are or ought to be .. from a perspective that focuses on the negative and tells us just how miserable we should be be feeling. That would give a bit of balance to the below .. a very, very little bit of balance. ;-) Happy Thanksgiving to you all .. and y'all keep smilling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com **American By Birth ** Southern By The Grace Of God ** Patriot By Choice** For What the Thanks? By MARK STEYN November 19, 2007 Speaking as a misfit unassimilated foreigner, I think of Thanksgiving as the most American of holidays. Christmas is celebrated elsewhere, even if there are significant local variations: in Continental Europe, naughty children get left rods to be flayed with and lumps of coal; in Britain, Christmas lasts from December 22nd to mid-January and celebrates the ancient cultural traditions of massive alcohol intake and watching the telly till you pass out in a pool of your own vomit. All part of the rich diversity of our world. But Thanksgiving (excepting the premature and somewhat undernourished Canadian version) is unique to America. " What's it about? " an Irish visitor asked me a couple of years back. " Everyone sits around giving thanks all day? Thanks for what? George bloody Bush? " Well, Americans have a lot to be thankful for. Europeans think of this country as " the New World " in part because it has an eternal newness which is noisy and distracting. Who would ever have thought you could have ready-to-eat pizza faxed directly to your iPod? And just when you think you're on top of the general trend of novelty, it veers off in an entirely different direction: Continentals who grew up on Hollywood movies where the guy tells the waitress " Gimme a cuppa joe " and slides over a nickel return to New York a year or two later and find the coffee now costs $5.75, takes 25 minutes and requires an agonizing choice between the cinnamon-gingerbread-persimmon latte with coxcomb sprinkles and the decaf venti pepperoni-Eurasian-milfoil macchiato. Who would have foreseen that the nation that inflicted fast food and drive-thru restaurants on the planet would then take the fastest menu item of all and turn it into a kabuki-paced performance art? What mad genius! But Americans aren't novelty junkies on the important things. " The New World " is one of the oldest settled constitutional democracies on earth, to a degree " the Old World " can barely comprehend. Where it counts, Americans are traditionalists. We know Eastern Europe was a totalitarian prison until the Nineties, but we forget that Mediterranean Europe (Greece, Spain, Portugal) has democratic roots going all the way back until, oh, the mid-Seventies; France and Germany's constitutions date back barely half a century, Italy's only to the 1940s, and Belgium's goes back about 20 minutes, and currently it's not clear whether even that latest rewrite remains operative. The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France's, Germany's, Italy's or Spain's constitution, it's older than all of them put together. Americans think of Europe as Goethe and Mozart and 12th century castles and 6th century churches, but the Continent's governing mechanisms are no more ancient than the Partridge Family. Aside from the Anglophone democracies, most of " the west " 's nation states have been conspicuous failures at sustaining peaceful political evolution from one generation to the next, which is why they're so susceptible to the siren song of Big Ideas — Communism, Fascism, European Union. If you're going to be novelty-crazed, better the zebra-mussel cappuccino than the Third Reich. Even in a supposedly 50/50 nation, you're struck by the assumed stability underpinning even fundamental disputes. If you go into a bookstore, the display shelves offer a smorgasbord of leftist anti-Bush tracts claiming that he and Cheney have trashed, mangled, gutted, raped and tortured, sliced'n'diced the Constitution, put it in a cement overcoat and lowered it into the East River. Yet even this argument presupposes a shared veneration for tradition unknown to most western political cultures: When Tony Blair wanted to abolish in effect the upper house of the national legislature, he just got on and did it. I don't believe the U.S. Constitution includes a right to abortion or gay marriage or a zillion other things the left claims to detect emanating from the penumbra, but I find it sweetly touching that in America even political radicalism has to be framed as an appeal to constitutional tradition from the powdered-wig era. In Europe, by contrast, one reason why there's no politically significant pro-life movement is because, in a world where constitutions have the life expectancy of an Oldsmobile, great questions are just seen as part of the general tide, the way things are going, no sense trying to fight it. And, by the time you realize you have to, the tide's usually up to your neck. So Americans should be thankful they have one of the last functioning nation states. Because they've been so inept at exercising it, Europeans no longer believe in national sovereignty, whereas it would never occur to Americans not to. This profoundly different attitude to the nation state underpins in turn Euro-American attitudes to transnational institutions such as the U.N. But on this Thanksgiving the rest of the world ought to give thanks to American national sovereignty, too. When something terrible and destructive happens — a tsunami hits Indonesia, an earthquake devastates Pakistan — the U.S. can project itself anywhere on the planet within hours and start saving lives, setting up hospitals and restoring the water supply. Aside from Britain and France, the Europeans cannot project power in any meaningful way anywhere. When they sign on to an enterprise they claim to believe in — shoring up Afghanistan's fledgling post-Taliban democracy — most of them send token forces under constrained rules of engagement that prevent them doing anything more than manning the photocopier back at the base. If America were to follow the Europeans and maintain only shriveled attenuated residual military capacity, the world would very quickly be nastier and bloodier, and far more unstable. It's not just Americans and Iraqis and Afghans who owe a debt of thanks to the U.S. soldier but all the Europeans grown plump and prosperous in a globalized economy guaranteed by the most benign hegemon in history. That said, Thanksgiving isn't about the big geopolitical picture, but about the blessings closer to home. Last week, the state of Oklahoma celebrated its centennial, accompanied by rousing performances of Rodgers and Hammerstein's eponymous anthem: " We know we belong to the land And the land we belong to is grand! " Which isn't a bad theme song for the first Thanksgiving, either. Three hundred and eighty-six years ago, the pilgrims thanked God because there was a place for them in this land, and it was indeed grand. The land is grander today, and that too is remarkable: France has lurched from Second Empires to Fifth Republics struggling to devise a lasting constitutional settlement for the same smallish chunk of real estate, but the principles that united a baker's dozen of East Coast colonies were resilient enough to expand across a continent and halfway around the globe to Hawaii. Americans should, as always, be thankful this Thanksgiving, but they should also understand just how rare in human history their blessings are.Mark Steyn (born 1959) is a Canadian journalist, columnist, and film and music critic. In recent years, he has written mostly about politics, from a conservative viewpoint. His 2006 book, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It, was a New York Times Bestseller. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cherish Every Moment By Michelle Malkin Stop Before You Gripe Before you blow your top about the holiday hassle at the airport, the long lines at the grocery store, all the hours you'll spend cooking and cleaning, the uninvited guests who are crashing hubby's football party, and the endless Christmas shopping list that awaits, just stop. Stop and think of the Johnson family. Army Spc. John Austin Johnson of El Paso, Texas, is recovering from massive head wounds sustained in an IED attack. Johnson is a member of Fort Bliss' 4-1 Cavalry. He had survived five previous bombing incidents. That is not all. Earlier this month, Johnson and his wife, Mona Lisa, buried their 9-year-old son, Tyler Anthony Johnson. The little boy had been on life support for several weeks after sustaining critical injuries in a horrible car accident. He was on his way with his family to see his dad in recuperation at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio. He never made it. The family car rolled over several times after being hit by powerful blasts of wind. Tyler was laid to rest at Pinecrest Memorial Park in Benton, Ark. That is not all. The Johnsons had two other children. Ashley Mishelle was 5 years old. Logan Wesley was 2. They were killed instantly in the same car crash that claimed their older brother's life. During the funeral service, the Benton Courier reported, the program included Ashley Mishelle's favorite song — Ashley Simpson's " Pieces of Me " — and Sarah McLachlan's haunting " In the Arms of an Angel. " White doves were donated by a retired military officer. To lose one child is devastating enough. To lose three? While recovering from traumatic war injuries? And to bury three little angels just weeks before Thanksgiving? No parent can read of suffering like that of the Johnsons and indulge the petty, selfish complaints of holiday gripers and road-ragers. The complainers featured on the nightly news this week wallowing in self-pity over a few hours' delay on the road or in the air need to get a grip, get over themselves and get some perspective. C.S. Lewis wrote famously that " God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain; it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world. " Thankfully, countless citizens were roused by the Johnsons' plight — and demonstrated that the American giving spirit lasts 365 days a year. More than 200 Patriot Guard Riders, the volunteer band of motorcycle enthusiasts who provide protection during military funerals, served as Tyler's pallbearers. The Patriot Guards traveled from Arkansas, Tennessee and Louisiana to attend. Anonymous donors provided the gravesites and markers for the children's plots. That is not all. Soldiers' Angels provided hotel stays as needed for the Johnsons' extended family in Dallas, a Brooke Army Medical Center official told the American Forces Press Service. The group also provided funding for food and other basic needs. The Dallas Veteran Service Organization and the Veterans of Foreign Wars pitched in with meals. Operation Comfort covered gas for rental cars, which were provided by Hertz and National. That is not all. The Fisher House Foundation's Hero Miles program provided travel for Johnson to get to his injured wife. American Airlines picked up the tab for the Johnsons to travel to their children's funerals. The Professional Golfers Association raised $95,000 for a new car and other expenses. Operation Homefront will use leftover funds to build a permanent memorial playground in the children's honor at Fort Bliss. Before Thanksgiving brings out the worst in you, stop before you gripe. Give thanks for noisy houses, healthy children and overflowing company. Give thanks for bounteous tables, rambunctious friends and neighbors, life and limb. And give thanks for those who give of themselves — in service to our nation, in civic duty and in answer to His call — all year 'round. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I woke up with the same thoughts of thankfulness. Butch is a little right of center and I'm a little left, but we are both patriots and both love this country. We are only two viewpoints, representative of the differing philosophies that make up our incredible diversity. I just think a little more clearly than he does. Oh, I kid the Butch. :-) Having spent a goodly amount of time with Native Americans up close and personal during my research in 1974, I am very aware of the sentiments Kathleen puts forth and the hardship and sorrow that is mostly hidden on their reservations today, out of view for the general American population . .. . This shows the dark side of America. To only know Native Americans as " noble savages " does not nearly portray their colorful and varying cultures as a whole. We have to remember, though, that Butch is a military man and mostly looks at most things from a military perspective. I'd ask, however, who were the savages when countless thousands of Indian children were taken into abject poverty and slavery in the boarding schools of early America, aptly chronicled by Marilyn Irvin in Indian Orphanages, the first book to focus exclusively on this subject. Marilyn Holt's study interweaves Indian history, educational history, family history, and child welfare policy to tell the story of Indian orphanages within the larger context of the orphan asylum in America. (University Press of Kansas, 2001) Children as young as 5, taken from their parents, punished if they spoke their native tongue and forced to work as slaves and bend to an education aimed to purge them of all their culture and history. The broken treaties are only but a slice of the injustices. I grew up celebrating traditional Thanksgiving, of course; my early childhood memories of those family gatherings help me temper my sadness of the underbelly of Thanksgiving learned in later years, with my own pleasant history. So, there are things for which I give thanks. I am thankful for having mentors and lamplighters who shaped my educational and professional choices; those who helped me ultimately choose a path of small and natural, embracing renewables and stewardship. I'm thankful for good fellowship with like-minded entrepreneurs and aficionados like those here and elsewhere on my path. Many who inspire me as well as challenge me. I am grateful to live in a country where diversity still reigns, even if challenged by a homogenizing corporatocracy about to engulf us all. With this in mind, my recommendation for a holiday movie would be " What Would Jesus Buy? " produced/directed by Morgan Spurlock of " Supersize Me " fame. Who knows, I might be inspired to run off and join the Reverend Billy's Stop Shopping Choir for a tour of duty. :-) Best wishes to all here for a day of feasting and good times with families and friends. And, a tip of the hat to those who choose to spend the day making the feast in shelters and churches for those who aren't able to do so themselves. Bless you. Be well, Marcia Elston Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence, est. 1988 http://www.wingedseed.com Online 3/95 http://www.aromaconnection.org Group Blog 2/07 " Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide and slavery - have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. " Howard Zinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 AFTER I read the entire piece I saw that the author was Canadian, lol. I still maintain that there is nothing diluted about MY TG day, I generally cook my brains out and love doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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