OT: Displacement ** Was: I Am Up to Butch's Challenge

[Guest guest]

Hey Kathleen,

 

You are not up to it .. you are merely a Contrarian who likes to try

to pull my chain. ;-)

 

> " I realize that this message is from a Conservative point of view .. I tried

> to find an alternative slant but, fortunately, I could not. Perhaps

> someone else will send one .. based on their interpretation of how

> things are or ought to be .. from a perspective that focuses on the

> negative and tells us just how miserable we should be be feeling.

> Depressing Thanksgiving links "

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> Hokay Butch Mon,

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> http://americanindiansource.com/mourningday.html

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> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028666/posts?page=3'

 

Some also protest Columbus Day (but not Leif Erickson Day) .. falsely

claiming that Columbus was the beginning of the end for the American

Indian .. and that it is a holiday to stroke the Catholics. Some

protest Black History Month and Miss Black America and such because

there are no History Months for other races .. and there is no Miss

Asian or Miss Indian or Miss Mexican pageants. There are those who

protest Christmas and New Year and Halloween .. claiming they are

pagan holidays. And Independence Day .. did we not take the Colonies

from the Brits? Some protest MLK Day claiming that the real story of

MLK, Jr. has not been told .. and Washington's Birthday cause he was a

traitor .. some say Labor Day is a Commie Holiday and Good Friday and

Easter are too religious to be celebrated in a society like the USA ..

some (who don't know their history) protest Confederate Memorial Day

and Jefferson Davis' Birthday .. claiming (falsely) that they honor

folks who supported slavery. And there are protests of many of the

special national (not federal) holidays recognized by Presidential

Proclamations over many years.

 

I expect that some Mexican folks are not so happy about the

remembrance of many Californians for Lt Col John C. Fremont .. but if

he hadn't showed up on the scene likely it is that if you and yours

wanted to live where you are now, you would be subject to the whims of

some local Padre. By the way .. he was later a candidate for the

presidency .. in the Radical Republican Party. They were a bunch of

hard-line Republicans who were upset with Lincoln's position on

slavery and with post-war reconciliation with the southern states ..

the party later changed their name to Democrat. ;-)

 

> Tons more on the same theme, just wanted y'all to know, that It could be

> done. ;-)

 

Not a problem to find disgruntled folks who make a living putting a

" spin " on history or present day social/cultural events .. but even

those folks oughta be thankful that they can do it .. feller in China

just got 8 years in prison for praising the Dali Lama and there are

many other countries where speaking your opinion can get you jailed.

 

> One Caveat though... with all due respect to the Native Americans, this is

> not how I feel things should be.

 

Of course not .. folks who know me well know that for the last 9 +

years I have had a Spirit Guide/Helper .. which is not (in my opinion)

in conflict with any other beliefs I might hold .. and I am a student

of American Indian history .. but it has nothing to do with seeing the

ancient Red Man as being a Noble Savage. ;-)

 

There were basically two types of American Indian Groups .. and most

of them were from time to time both types. They displaced each other

for land .. many groups who wound up riding horses and slaying buffalo

in the Great Plains had slowly worked their way across America from

the East .. displacing other groups as they moved onward. These

groups who were using stone age weapons finally met up with a larger

tribe of folks who used the same tactics they had used but had better

weapons .. and who would not be displaced. I think the only official

or logical regrets today over the US Government's treatment of the

American Indians back then was the broken treaties .. there is a lot

of shame there but it apparently seemed like a good idea at the time.

And .. even in Europe at that time folks weren't near as civilized as

they are today.

 

The American Indians had existed long before the Europeans knew they

existed .. and defeat is never pleasant but their defeat was

inevitable. There was no way the American Indians could have

continued to be masters of their own destiny after they were exposed

to civilization .. and Manifest Destiny. Today most of the groups

have Casinos where there used to be buffalo. That might be something

to be thankful for. ;-)

 

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> The Woobey Queen

> Http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

Yep .. and you .. and Happy Thanksgiving to you .. Contrarian Witch ;-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV.AT.com

 

PS: Been raining like crazy here all last night and today .. rained

half the days of November .. my buddy is in GA where the lakes are dry

now .. he called me a while ago and asked if I reckoned the dams here

were so full that TVA might let a bitta water flow downstream. Said

he sure would be thankful if they did. I reckon happiness comes in

many forms .. some small and some large .. depends on where we are

sitting at the time.

[Guest guest]

" you are merely a Contrarian who likes to try to pull my chain. ;-) "

 

I'll plead guilty the the latter part, but not the first. LOL!

 

>smiling all innocent like and batting my stumpy little eyelashes furiously<

 

Can't help it if I saw a challenge there. ;-)

 

Happy Thanksgiving to you, Tanya and the Great One.

 

$5.00 a pound for goose?! Shoot! I'd take that in a heart beat compared to

prices HERE for a Honker.

 

Just another thought that bounced into me teeny brain. ;-)

 

K

 

 

On 11/21/07, Butch Owen <butchowen wrote:

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