RE: Organic Farming - A Dose Of Reality (or not)

[Guest guest]

--- David Lambert <dlmbrt wrote:

>

> [Dave]: THANK YOU!!! I didn't have the energy to

> jump into this one.

 

Yes, me either. But I just could not let that one go

by. And that's also why I didn't take on each point,

but rather gave book references. I am too busy to

engage in a " food fight " (pardon the pun ;-) with

someone who won't do the research (albeit I recommend

secondary sources.)

 

But for those interested in really delving into the

history and substance of the arguments, and going on

to do some first-hand experimentation, like buying

some so-called " organic " (NOT the USDA definition)

foods and comparing them to " conventional " .... Well,

them, I always got time for.

 

> You

> are so right.

 

Study, logic, experience have all confirmed that to

me.

 

> For most of the 100,000 years, give

> or take an eon, that

> we've been practicing agriculture, Monsanto didn't

> exist.

 

Yeah, that and a whole lot more!

 

> Organic was the

> only kind of farming that existed until less than a

> century ago. Chemical

> fertilizers greatly increase yield, but at the

> expense of other factors such

> as nutrition and soil quality.

 

And eventual yield, even if all you ever measure is

yield, it goes significantly downhill after just a few

years. (Gee, does this somehow sound like CONVENTIAL

MEDICINE????)

 

There is currently an epidemic of suicide by farmers

in India, who switched to " conventional " methods about

a decade ago, and who are now going bust and simply

cannot cope physically, emotionally or spiritually.

 

See this movie, available in parts on YouTube

How to Save the World:

http://www.howtosavetheworld.co.nz/

 

Here’s the bio of the teacher featured in the

aforementioned film:

=================

Peter Proctor is one of the worlds leading

experts on biodynamic agriculture. He was born

(28.8.28) in Blenheim New Zealand and has forty five

years of experience in a wide range of horticultural

and agricultural activities including running his own

nursery business and as farm manager for the Hohepa

Trust Board at Clive (NZ).

In 1985 he established an advisory service for

the New Zealand Farming and Gardening Association and

lectures at the accredited Taruna Diploma Course in

Biodynamic agriculture. During the past ten years he

has lectured and advised on Biodynamics in Australia,

China, UK, Holland, Germany, Switzerland, USA, Hawaii,

India, Bangladesh, Singapore and Malaysia. He now

lives in India and runs a great many introductory

courses for farmers.

================

 

Well worth watching that film, especially since it’s

FREE!

 

> You don't get

> something for nothing.

 

Such is always the case, and the bane of the Western

" Man " and his " civilization " .

 

>

> The fertilizer industry is one of two major

> offshoots of military

> technology.

 

In my experience, very few know that, but yes, that's

my understanding.

 

> After the Civil War, the materials used

> to make explosives were

> used to develop nitrocellulose lacquer, probably the

> best wood finish ever

> developed. After WWII, the fertilizer industry

> arose from the same source.

> There's a certain swords-to-plowshares thing, but as

> always when one set of

> problems is solved, another is created.

 

It would be nice if that were really it:

Swords-to-plowshares.... I fear it was simply " what

do we DO with THIS stuff NOW????? " (Something like

fluoride in the drinking water.... but that's a whole

'nother rant.)

 

KD

 

 

 

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