Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thought I'd add a little to this thread. Patty is right; most doctors started out with ethics and good intentions, however, it is the changed healthcare system that has pushed them into corporate privatization where the bottom line inevitably outweighs individual patient needs (often, doctors' recommendations are denied/overruled by health insurance providers and hmo's). There is no doubt that the only good healthcare in this country is reserved for the wealthy and skyrocketing costs and denied benefits are very adversely affecting the middle class and the poor. One cannot necessarily fault any individual; there are good people who now have to make decisions based on criteria for the good of the corporation and this relegates the good of the patient lower on the rungs of priority, resulting in inhumane and punitive decisions that can gravely affect individuals and families. I think we are all grappling with the inequities that have ensued since we moved away from a nonprofit healthcare system. I, personally, believe that universal healthcare (along with education, communication and other necessary infrastructure for the commonwealth) is part of the duty of government under the constitutional mandate in the U.S. This does not mean that I do not believe in the private sector, I just think business entities need to be regulated to insure intrinsic and human value considerations other than economic to keep us from exploitation to simply make more money. Be well, Marcia Elston Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence, est. 1988 http://www.wingedseed.com Online 3/95 http://www.aromaconnection.org Group Blog 2/07 " Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide and slavery - have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. " Howard Zinn > > > On Behalf Of Patricia West > Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:31 PM > > RE: Do power lines contribute to > breathing problems? Now O/T Doctors > > I have seen some disparaging things said about the medical > profession on this group,but the idea that doctors want > people to be sick so they can make money, and that they don't > know anything about keeping us healthy, is really outrageous. > I don't want to cause discord here, or encourage a debate, > but I worked in the medical malpractice defense business for 15 years. > In my experience, doctors and other allied health care > providers care very much about their patients' > well-being, and it's an extremely demanding field which > requires a lot of dedication. Believe me, if you knew > anything about what the average physician's day was like, > you'd realize there are a heck of a lot easier ways to make a buck. > > There is certainly a need for the medical profession to take > a further look at alternative/complimentary treatments and > environmental causes of disease, but that doesn't mean the > people in that profession don't have an interest in keeping > their patients healthy. > > So to all of the hard-working health care professionals on > this list (M.D.s or otherwise), I salute you. > > Patty > > --- vizual wrote: > <snipped> > Of course > > doctors will never tell you > > about 5those dangers... they'd rather have the > > (SICK) business!! Doctors > > know little, if anything, about keeping people HEALTHY. > That doesn't > > pay their bills...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I cut the whole thing off because that's a horse that has been beaten and needs to be left alone in my humble opinion. There are still doctors out there that have those values.. You just have to do a lot of searching. If you're on the north side of Houston.. I suggest my Doctor. If you need his name email me privately. He's as close to a holistic practitioner that I've ever seen in 37 years of my life... (okay my original doctor when I was little was a country doctor that would soon cut a spider bite out than give you some anti-biotics. (brother was bit by a brown recluse when he was little and my mom took him to Dr. Scriptka and because it was between the fingers he took out a knife (sterilized of course) cut the webbing where the spider had bit my brother and taped the fingers together.) said come back in a week. My parents did and sure enough there was wonderful pink skin there no antibiotics needed. But Dr. Mock hasn't lead me screwy yet {a lot of people don't like the fact his staff are a bit brusque at first, but once they get to know you they're pretty okay} He actually spends more than 15 minutes with you, unless it's for just a yearly... Hey how ya doing (need a refill? kinda thing)..but when you let on that something is not right.. He'll listen. He told me rather than prescribing $100.00 medication for IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME. to eat prunes every day, and take acidophilus... (he even told me not to buy the expensive stuff unless I had a really bad bout.) He would have suggested goat yogurt, but he knows me way too well, however if he suggests that you do something like going to get your yearly gyn exam and you don't do it... He'll drop you like a hot potato... Cause he doesn't want you to neglect yourself because of stupidity or otherwise. He truly cares... And he actually sent me to a psychiatrist when he didn't feel comfortable prescribing anything else for depression/bipolar. He also said for me to go do something for myself... Strictly for myself and do not feel guilty about it, (as long as it's not immoral, illegal, or fattening) Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Growing up my ped always knew me - created conversation and really cared about all of his patients. Now as an adult I have to use a military doctor, which i hate... but there are still lots of doctors out there. They are out there- , Jennifer Janek-Markey <pixieladie wrote: > > I cut the whole thing off because that's a horse that has been beaten > and needs to be left alone in my humble opinion. > > > There are still doctors out there that have those values.. You just > have to do a lot of searching. If you're on the north side of Houston.. > I suggest my Doctor. If you need his name email me privately. He's as > close to a holistic practitioner that I've ever seen in 37 years of my > life... (okay my original doctor when I was little was a country doctor > that would soon cut a spider bite out than give you some anti- biotics. > (brother was bit by a brown recluse when he was little and my mom took > him to Dr. Scriptka and because it was between the fingers he took out a > knife (sterilized of course) cut the webbing where the spider had bit my > brother and taped the fingers together.) said come back in a week. My > parents did and sure enough there was wonderful pink skin there no > antibiotics needed. > > But Dr. Mock hasn't lead me screwy yet {a lot of people don't like the > fact his staff are a bit brusque at first, but once they get to know you > they're pretty okay} > > He actually spends more than 15 minutes with you, unless it's for just a > yearly... Hey how ya doing (need a refill? kinda thing)..but when you > let on that something is not right.. He'll listen. He told me rather > than prescribing $100.00 medication for IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME. to eat > prunes every day, and take acidophilus... (he even told me not to buy > the expensive stuff unless I had a really bad bout.) He would have > suggested goat yogurt, but he knows me way too well, however if he > suggests that you do something like going to get your yearly gyn exam > and you don't do it... He'll drop you like a hot potato... Cause he > doesn't want you to neglect yourself because of stupidity or otherwise. > He truly cares... And he actually sent me to a psychiatrist when he > didn't feel comfortable prescribing anything else for > depression/bipolar. He also said for me to go do something for > myself... Strictly for myself and do not feel guilty about it, (as long > as it's not immoral, illegal, or fattening) > > Jennifer > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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