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Well, howdy folks! I'm 'a commin' out of lurk mode to introduce

myself.

 

I'm Rivkah, a 28 year old mother of two kids, one daughter who is

just.like.me. (in mom's voice, to boot!) who will be 3 in just a few

weeks and a little boy who just turned 1.

 

I grew up in Ohio (4 dead in O-hi-o...there's your trivia for the

day) and lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for about 6 years

before, ultimately, moving to Israel with my husband, who is,

incidentially, Israeli.

 

I am what you might call an Orthodox Jew...which puts me on a rather

broad spectrum, I'm sure, but essentially it's a little bit of

this...conservative on one issue, liberal on the other. A good

mismatch of hard to defineness...that sort of thing.

 

For a while there I was a practicing Wiccan. A monotheist Wiccan, to

be sure, so it wasn't a big leap from my Jewish/Christian upbringing.

This is where I began to learn a bit about oils and herbs, the latter

for which I had no interest, until I was diagnosed with Endometriosis

some 10 years ago.

 

Then I began to study food as medicine and " alternative " ways of

healing.

 

Which brings me to the present day.

 

I guess you could say I'm a pretty cruncy mom and wife. We don't vax

the kids, use cloth diapers, I'm home with them, we don't really have

a crib or stroller. No bottles or pacifiers. And we are vegetarian

(though half the family eats kosher fish).

 

I'm active on a couple of boards for like minded folk, but had yet to

find a group of people from which I could learn the arts of oils and

herbs...until now.

 

Basically, I had been teachign myself alternative/complimentary

medicine after the kids went to bed. I decided I wanted to step up my

study of the aformentioned arts and stumbled upon this group, and I'm

so glad I did. I have been learning worlds of information from Butch

and the rest of the gang and have just been LOVING the discussion. I

can't write much, because the kids usually wake for nursing or

whatever little kids wake from and that keeps me away from the

computer more than I am on it, but I DO follow what is going on and

even talk out loud to some of you as I read your responses.

 

Yes, I know that you can't hear me...

 

Until now. :)

 

At any rate, there is my long introduction. Do'nt know when you'll be

hearing so much from me again but if you have any questions I'd be

happy to answer.

 

Now, for my questions to you...

 

My mother is coming to visit and meet her grandson for the first time

(lord it's been too long since I've seen my mother. I miss her!) and

I would like her to bring some oils for me. Chamomile is on the top

of my list...as a third of an ounce (10ml) here in Israel runs me

around $30 and I have no idea of the quality or shelf life so am

reluctant to buy, espically since I use so infrequently.

 

Mainly, I use it for healing. I have an oil I made, intuitively,

before I knew the first thing about oils, as a belly rub for me and

then a diaper rash/all purpose healing oil for the children from

chamomile and lavendar in a sweet almond oil carrier. That lasts an

awful long time and is extremly effective in healing all forms of

excema/dry skin/ rash/ cut/ bruise/ you name it that the kids could

have. In the USA, I just ran out to Whole Foods and picked up

Wyndmere's Chamomile Roman (in Jojoba)(antheis nobilis) from England

and their Lavender (lavandula angustifolium) from France. They have

lasted, literally, YEARS (though the chamomile, I think, is turing

rancid, though there is really only a drop or two left, so its hard

to tell).

 

Anyways, at this point I would like to know a bit more about which of

these oils is the " best bang for my buck " espically considering that

money is quite tight and we are working off the local currency and

not US Dollars, which makes this even more of a challenge. Also, as

far as carrier oils, should I be trying something new? Are there any

contraindications of certain carrier oils to children or pregnant

women (for example, how about sesame seed oil or apricot or grape...)

and which " keep " the longest or preserve the best. ALso, why is it

impossible to find a chamomile not in jojoba oil? I understand that

jojoba is a preservative? Vit E? Could someone clarify?

 

Also, does anyone know anything about the company " Pure Oil " that is

commonly sold in Israel?

 

As far as an herbal " bitters " , any suggestions? My dh (dear husband)

has got such a sensitive stomach and I think this might help him.

He's also got a motion sickness issue that has intensified with age

(he's only 30!!!) but now it's pretty serious. As in, if he's in the

passengers seat he gets car sick and a plane ride sets him back for

WEEKS!!! Any thoughts on this other than ginger or an acupressure

bracelet (which we haven't tried, but are aware of)?

 

Also, I have been looking for an herbal birth control for a group of

ladies, and have not been able to find one. Only references to Neem

Oil (which is not sold to the general public here in Israel) and

carrot seed, though I have no idea of dosage or contraindications. I

am not looking for an abortifacient, just something that alters the

ph a bit and prevents conception. Herbs for either a man or woman are

fine.

 

Also, looking for anyone who has treated so called " vaccine

preventable diseases " with herbs/oils and would care to comment on

their treatment, for those of us who would like to be " in the know " .

 

And finally, I am wondering which books on the " wise woman "

or " kitchen witch " or " native traditions " (read: NOT TC(or I)M

(Traditional Chinese or Indian Medicine) any of you might recommend.

It's not that I don't have a deep and profound respect for TC/IM but

It just doesn't speak to me in the way that your run of the mill

native/wise woman traditions do.

 

Mom leaves in about a month, so the faster I can get everything to

her house the better the chance I'll actually have it when she comes.

 

Thank you to EVERYONE for sharing their knowledge...and themselves

with the rest of us.

 

Rivkah

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Hey Rivkah!

 

I should introduce myself as well.

 

I'm Christine. I'm 32 years old. I've grown up in and around the

Cleveland area and currently stay in Akron, where I've lived in and

out of since 1997.

I started on the pagan path around 1998, when I became interested in

essential oils and massage after learning that they could help with

weight loss. The first book I ever bought on the topic is " Neal's Yard

Remedies: Essential Oils " by Susan Curtis. I started learning self

massage techniques to reduce cellulite when I finally stabilized at a

size 8, down from a 16, and overweight most of my life.

In 1998, I met a massage therapist and healer from Akron who inspired

me to learn a little more. At the time I was living with a young man

that worked for the Mustard Seed, so I began learning about natural

foods as well. I picked up the book called " Healing Teas " by

I studied Reiki and Massage under my new friend. She also took me to

some neo-pagan festivals where I got the opportunity to learn about

traditional world religions, beliefs, spirituality, and practices.

In 2003 I enrolled in Ohio College of Massotherapy, to get an

associate degree in massage therapy. I graduated in 2005, and got my

state license that summer.

Since 1998, I have done various workshops and personal study (and

testing) on Reiki, Neuromuscular Therapy, Myofascial Release, Massage

techniques for Pathologies and disease, Qi Kung, Yoga, Reflexology,

Shiatsu, Food Medicine, Herbal Medicine, Detox Diets, Supplements,

Anatomy & Physiology, Essential Oils, Healing Stones, Sound

Vibrational Healing, Trance and Ecstatic Dancing,

I spent last winter studying agriculture, botany, composting, herb and

vegetable gardening, biodynamic methods, and companion planting so I

could start a successful organic herb, perenial, and vegetable garden

for myself in my backyard. I didn't buy any salad greens all last

summer, and ate about 2 a day out of my little patch. This years

garden is underway with seedlings that are germinating in the next room.

I'm currently starting to learn about sprouting, as I had about 10

people at the store ask me about it over the weekend, and I forgot how

much I love Mung Beans!

To help pay for the student loans, I began doing part time catering

jobs for the Mustard Seed right at the time I was finishing massage

school.

Nowadays, I'm in charge of the concert catering department for the

store, which is a seasonal job that allows me the time to have a small

private massage practice.

Soooo, here I am. My neighbor Nika, formerly from Moscow, got me

interested in the group, and it has been interesting reads!

I've added a few notes to your post Rivkah, where I thought they would

make the most sense.

Cheers!

Christine in Akorn.

 

 

 

, " rivkah511 " <wokeupwise wrote:

>

> Well, howdy folks! I'm 'a commin' out of lurk mode to introduce

> myself.

>

> I'm Rivkah, a 28 year old mother of two kids, one daughter who is

> just.like.me. (in mom's voice, to boot!) who will be 3 in just a few

> weeks and a little boy who just turned 1.

>

 

She is from Kent!

 

> I grew up in Ohio (4 dead in O-hi-o...there's your trivia for the

> day) and lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for about 6 years

> before, ultimately, moving to Israel with my husband, who is,

> incidentially, Israeli.

>

> I am what you might call an Orthodox Jew...which puts me on a rather

> broad spectrum, I'm sure, but essentially it's a little bit of

> this...conservative on one issue, liberal on the other. A good

> mismatch of hard to defineness...that sort of thing.

>

> For a while there I was a practicing Wiccan. A monotheist Wiccan, to

> be sure, so it wasn't a big leap from my Jewish/Christian upbringing.

 

After learning Reiki, I'm tempted to believe that there is nothing

larger to pray to than the Universe. However, I could not say that I

do not consider the Moon, Sun, Earth, and constellations deities

themselves. And not too mention the energy patterns that have been

laid down by my ancestors.

 

> This is where I began to learn a bit about oils and herbs, the latter

> for which I had no interest, until I was diagnosed with Endometriosis

> some 10 years ago.

>

> Then I began to study food as medicine and " alternative " ways of

> healing.

>

> Which brings me to the present day.

>

> I guess you could say I'm a pretty cruncy mom and wife. We don't vax

> the kids, use cloth diapers, I'm home with them, we don't really have

> a crib or stroller. No bottles or pacifiers. And we are vegetarian

> (though half the family eats kosher fish).

>

> I'm active on a couple of boards for like minded folk, but had yet to

> find a group of people from which I could learn the arts of oils and

> herbs...until now.

>

> Basically, I had been teachign myself alternative/complimentary

> medicine after the kids went to bed. I decided I wanted to step up my

> study of the aformentioned arts and stumbled upon this group, and I'm

> so glad I did. I have been learning worlds of information from Butch

> and the rest of the gang and have just been LOVING the discussion. I

> can't write much, because the kids usually wake for nursing or

> whatever little kids wake from and that keeps me away from the

> computer more than I am on it, but I DO follow what is going on and

> even talk out loud to some of you as I read your responses.

>

> Yes, I know that you can't hear me...

>

> Until now. :)

>

> At any rate, there is my long introduction. Do'nt know when you'll be

> hearing so much from me again but if you have any questions I'd be

> happy to answer.

>

> Now, for my questions to you...

>

> My mother is coming to visit and meet her grandson for the first time

> (lord it's been too long since I've seen my mother. I miss her!) and

> I would like her to bring some oils for me. Chamomile is on the top

> of my list...as a third of an ounce (10ml) here in Israel runs me

> around $30 and I have no idea of the quality or shelf life so am

> reluctant to buy, espically since I use so infrequently.

>

> Mainly, I use it for healing. I have an oil I made, intuitively,

> before I knew the first thing about oils, as a belly rub for me and

> then a diaper rash/all purpose healing oil for the children from

> chamomile and lavendar in a sweet almond oil carrier. That lasts an

> awful long time and is extremly effective in healing all forms of

> excema/dry skin/ rash/ cut/ bruise/ you name it that the kids could

> have. In the USA, I just ran out to Whole Foods and picked up

> Wyndmere's Chamomile Roman (in Jojoba)(antheis nobilis) from England

> and their Lavender (lavandula angustifolium) from France. They have

> lasted, literally, YEARS (though the chamomile, I think, is turing

> rancid, though there is really only a drop or two left, so its hard

> to tell).

>

> Anyways, at this point I would like to know a bit more about which of

> these oils is the " best bang for my buck " espically considering that

> money is quite tight and we are working off the local currency and

> not US Dollars, which makes this even more of a challenge. Also, as

> far as carrier oils, should I be trying something new? Are there any

> contraindications of certain carrier oils to children or pregnant

> women (for example, how about sesame seed oil or apricot or grape...)

> and which " keep " the longest or preserve the best. ALso, why is it

> impossible to find a chamomile not in jojoba oil? I understand that

> jojoba is a preservative? Vit E? Could someone clarify?

>

> Also, does anyone know anything about the company " Pure Oil " that is

> commonly sold in Israel?

>

> As far as an herbal " bitters " , any suggestions? My dh (dear husband)

> has got such a sensitive stomach and I think this might help him.

> He's also got a motion sickness issue that has intensified with age

> (he's only 30!!!) but now it's pretty serious. As in, if he's in the

> passengers seat he gets car sick and a plane ride sets him back for

> WEEKS!!! Any thoughts on this other than ginger or an acupressure

> bracelet (which we haven't tried, but are aware of)?

 

I have read that breathing rosewood oil dropped on a hankerchief is

good for motion sickness.

 

>

> Also, I have been looking for an herbal birth control for a group of

> ladies, and have not been able to find one. Only references to Neem

> Oil (which is not sold to the general public here in Israel) and

> carrot seed, though I have no idea of dosage or contraindications. I

> am not looking for an abortifacient, just something that alters the

> ph a bit and prevents conception. Herbs for either a man or woman are

> fine.

 

My method of birth control is to massage a drop of juniper oil with

jojoba, which is more abortifactant that control, but it also lets me

keep my cycle regular.

 

>

> Also, looking for anyone who has treated so called " vaccine

> preventable diseases " with herbs/oils and would care to comment on

> their treatment, for those of us who would like to be " in the know " .

>

> And finally, I am wondering which books on the " wise woman "

> or " kitchen witch " or " native traditions " (read: NOT TC(or I)M

> (Traditional Chinese or Indian Medicine) any of you might recommend.

> It's not that I don't have a deep and profound respect for TC/IM but

> It just doesn't speak to me in the way that your run of the mill

> native/wise woman traditions do.

 

I heard Trish Telesco at a speaking engagement in Florida some years

ago. She was very knowledgeable on kitchen witchery. I'm sure you

could find her books on amazon.

In my kitchen, the books I feel that have been of most help are " The

Spirit of the Herbs: A guide to the Herbal Tarot " by Michael Tierra

and Candis Cantin, " The Detox Diet " by Dr. Elson M. Haas M.D., and

" Healing Teas " by Maine Nadine Antol.

All three are a wealth of information.

I think they are great because they empower you to use your own

personal judgement in guiding your own health and healing.

 

Oh yeah, I've had a tarot deck that I have been working with since

around 2002. I started learning tarot about 10 years before using myy

current deck and really enjoyed it. It didn't resonate very strongly

until I picked up the herb deck. Although I must admit, the first deck

I used was " the Witches Tarot " and had strong ties to Kaballah, to

which I was completely foreign to until recently. I got a little

confused when I started learning how it pertained to the Kaballah.

 

>

> Mom leaves in about a month, so the faster I can get everything to

> her house the better the chance I'll actually have it when she comes.

 

We have Aura Cacia and Wyndmere oils at the store as a last resort. I

don't know what anyone here thinks of either of those brands, but I'd

like to post that question. That's what I have been using as they are

readily available to me. I have ordered from a few of the members on

this list as well.

 

>

> Thank you to EVERYONE for sharing their knowledge...and themselves

> with the rest of us.

>

> Rivkah

>

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Hi Shelly

 

This probably isn't the answer you were looking for,

and I would defer to any dieticians or other experts

on this list. But based on my own experience, the best

" detox " diet is just going back to eating the good

healthy foods you know you should be eating - lots of

fruits and veggies, whole grains etc. Allow yourself

the occasional indulgence (in moderation of course) so

you don't feel deprived. Very soon, you'll be feeling

better. A strict diet will just put you on a yo-yo

course where you will feel deprived and resentful, and

then slip back into a junk food binge again. Well,

that's my advice for what it's worth.

 

I wish you the best!

 

Patty

--- W M PHILLIPS <mpwp1 wrote:

 

> Could anyone share any info about detox diets, to

> loose weight and to get a better feel for myself

> after going on a junk food binge.

>

> Thanks

> Shelly

>

 

 

 

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