Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Howdy Rivkah, Since there has been no reply to your post .. I'll give it a shot. > Well, howdy folks! I'm 'a commin' out of lurk mode to introduce > myself. Coming outta lurkdom is good .. more folsk oughta do it. :-) > I'm Rivkah, a 28 year old mother of two kids, one daughter who is > just.like.me. (in mom's voice, to boot!) who will be 3 in just a few > weeks and a little boy who just turned 1. What do you do with all your spare time? My son just turned 22 months and keeping up with him is tougher than herding cats. ;-) > I grew up in Ohio (4 dead in O-hi-o...there's your trivia for the > day) and lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for about 6 years > before, ultimately, moving to Israel with my husband, who is, > incidentially, Israeli. My mother's mother was one of the many Nashville, TN Jews. Her father was Welsh and she never practiced Judiasm .. but I reckon maybe that linage would qualify me to reside in Israel if I wasn't happy in Paris, TN. I did leave a few notes in the Western Wall. ;-) http://health.ph./photos/view/be05?b=4 A beautiful country for sure. Eilat on the Gulf of Aqaba is a great vacation spot .. Red Sea SCUBA diving in the world's best. Tel-Aviv has a super nice seaside prominade, and fantastic restaurants up and down Rothschild. I stayed a week there .. each evening I would get a fresh squeezed container of strawberry nectar and then sit and wait for the Fire and Lights Fountain on Dizengoff Square to start up .. a very beautiful sight that is. > I am what you might call an Orthodox Jew...which puts me on a rather > broad spectrum, I'm sure, but essentially it's a little bit of > this...conservative on one issue, liberal on the other. A good > mismatch of hard to defineness...that sort of thing. Eclectic .. huh? Nobody could accuse you of being narrow minded. ;-) > For a while there I was a practicing Wiccan. A monotheist Wiccan, to > be sure, so it wasn't a big leap from my Jewish/Christian upbringing. I was raised a Suthran Baptist .. at 18 I married (for a short time) a lady who was also too young for marriage .. a Pentecostal Christian. At 21 I married a Vietnamese Buddhist (R.I.P.), then at 25 a Turkish secular Moslem who is now a nondenominational Christian and that one lasted 22+ years .. then at 63 I married my present and best wife, who is Russian Orthodox and this is my last marriage fer;shur. ;-) My son was baptised in the Russian Orthodox church last January while we were in Russia but I intend to make sure that he gets the Round Robin on religion so he can make his own choice. I haven't had time to try Wicca but I love nature and my first wife's mother was a witch so I reckon I have something in common with the Wiccans. ;-) > This is where I began to learn a bit about oils and herbs, the latter > for which I had no interest, until I was diagnosed with Endometriosis > some 10 years ago. > > Then I began to study food as medicine and " alternative " ways of > healing. Good luck to you and may you manage it well. :-) > I have been learning worlds of information from Butch and the rest > of the gang and have just been LOVING the discussion. Good it is and thanks for the comment .. there is a lotta good folks with a lotta good info on this news group. I don't have much to say about Aromatherapy because I believe that unless one is blatently unsafe in their use of an EO its a fairly subjective area .. there are many paths to get where one wants to get to. I sorta concentrate on safety and quality and the particulars of various EO .. and try to counter .. or at least balance some of the bad info put out on them. > Now, for my questions to you... > > My mother is coming to visit and meet her grandson for the first time > (lord it's been too long since I've seen my mother. I miss her!) and > I would like her to bring some oils for me. Chamomile is on the top > of my list...as a third of an ounce (10ml) here in Israel runs me > around $30 and I have no idea of the quality or shelf life so am > reluctant to buy, espically since I use so infrequently. Not a bad price .. $30 for 10 ml of German Blue Chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla) and $16 or so for 10 ml of Roman Chamomile (Anthemis nobilis) is a normal price for pure, quality oils that are not diluted in a carrier oil. > Mainly, I use it for healing. I have an oil I made, intuitively, > before I knew the first thing about oils, as a belly rub for me and > then a diaper rash/all purpose healing oil for the children from > chamomile and lavendar in a sweet almond oil carrier. That lasts an > awful long time and is extremly effective in healing all forms of > excema/dry skin/ rash/ cut/ bruise/ you name it that the kids could > have. In the USA, I just ran out to Whole Foods and picked up > Wyndmere's Chamomile Roman (in Jojoba)(antheis nobilis) from England > and their Lavender (lavandula angustifolium) from France. They have > lasted, literally, YEARS (though the chamomile, I think, is turing > rancid, though there is really only a drop or two left, so its hard > to tell). Not sure how many year(s) you are talking about but odds are fair that the oils you have now have long since become oxidized .. unless .. you kept them under Nitrogen Flush and out of the light in colored bottles and even then odds are still very good that those mixed with Almond are bad because Almond has a very short life .. like 6-8 months. If we mix an oil with a normally expected long life with one that has a normally expected short life the mixture will become unusable based on the life of the short life oil. CP Citrus has a short life and Jojoba has an indefinite life but even if kept at optimum conditions when mixed together they will go bad within a 12-18 months .. depending on the manner of storage and handling. If Blue Chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla) is stored and handled under ideal conditions it will keep well from one harvest/distillation to the next and maybe even a bit longer .. but expecting two years from a Blue Chamomile is a bit unrealistic. Its easy enough to detect when Blue Chamomile has passed its normally expected life .. the bright Blue color will start to turn Greenish .. and you will be able to detect an odor that will advise you that its off. > Anyways, at this point I would like to know a bit more about which of > these oils is the " best bang for my buck " espically considering that > money is quite tight and we are working off the local currency and > not US Dollars, which makes this even more of a challenge. Also, as > far as carrier oils, should I be trying something new? Bang for the buck starts with knowing what you need vs what you don't and accepting that blends are not always the answer to gain maximum therapeutic value from an oil or oils. Then you get into quality and purity .. two different animals cause there are many pure but mediocre oils out and about .. and then you get into Origin .. a high quality, pure oil from one Origin will not be the same quality as a high quality, pure oil from another Origin. Certain countries are well known for producing the ultimate quality of particular oils. So you gotta know the Origin as well as being able to be assured that the oil is not a lower quality (what I call Commercial grade) pure oil. > Are there contraindications of certain carrier oils to children or > pregnant women (for example, how about sesame seed oil or apricot or > grape...) For Carriers .. I doubt it .. none that I know of. > and which " keep " the longest or preserve the best. That is an easy one .. Fractionated Coconut (Cocos nucifera) and Jojoba (Simmondsia chinensis) .. though Jojoba is actually not an oil ... its a wax .. but that is trivia. > Also, why is it impossible to find a chamomile not in jojoba oil? It is NOT impossible .. and if you bought 10 ml of diluted Chamomile for $30 then you were cheated .. big time. I sell it pure and some other folks on this list do too. > I understand that jojoba is a preservative? Vit E? Could someone > clarify? That is also an easy one .. its pure, unadultered Hawg Wash .. do not believe such crap! > Also, does anyone know anything about the company " Pure Oil " that is > commonly sold in Israel? Not me. > As far as an herbal " bitters " , any suggestions? My dh (dear husband) > has got such a sensitive stomach and I think this might help him. Not sure if he would accept it but my choice would be German Jagermeister .. I like it big time and it works .. tastes good too. > He's also got a motion sickness issue that has intensified with age > (he's only 30!!!) but now it's pretty serious. As in, if he's in the > passengers seat he gets car sick and a plane ride sets him back for > WEEKS!!! Any thoughts on this other than ginger or an acupressure > bracelet (which we haven't tried, but are aware of)? As for natural treatments .. I have none. Ginger is the thing but there are also many commercial preparations that work. > Also, I have been looking for an herbal birth control for a group of > ladies, and have not been able to find one. Only references to Neem > Oil (which is not sold to the general public here in Israel) and > carrot seed, though I have no idea of dosage or contraindications. I > am not looking for an abortifacient, just something that alters the > ph a bit and prevents conception. Herbs for either a man or woman are > fine. Odds are there are herbs that would work .. I'm not sure but you should consult a qualified herbalist. Maybe Martin Watt will comment on this. Essential oils .. for get it! Use of same would not be a wise move. > Also, looking for anyone who has treated so called " vaccine > preventable diseases " with herbs/oils and would care to comment on > their treatment, for those of us who would like to be " in the know " . Not me. :-( > And finally, I am wondering which books on the " wise woman " > or " kitchen witch " or " native traditions " (read: NOT TC(or I)M > (Traditional Chinese or Indian Medicine) any of you might recommend. > It's not that I don't have a deep and profound respect for TC/IM but > It just doesn't speak to me in the way that your run of the mill > native/wise woman traditions do. I have no recommendations here either. > Mom leaves in about a month, so the faster I can get everything to > her house the better the chance I'll actually have it when she comes. I really can understand your concern .. I lived more than half my adult life outside the U.S.A. and was always excited when I could get folks to bring (or send) American things to me. ;-) > Thank you to EVERYONE for sharing their knowledge...and themselves > with the rest of us. Welcome you are fer'shur. If you want your mother to bring you some quality EO I recommend you purchase same from one of the folks on this news group .. and have them send the products to her. > Rivkah Shalom .. and y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com PS: Who (Good Lawd Willing and the Creeks Don't Rise) will have his new web site on line within 14 days. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thank you Butch for your detailed reply. First of all, congrats on your little man! That is a great age and we had fun walking dd (dear daughter) through it...though I'm happy to be on the other side. ds is a different kid (duh!) and I'm going to hope that it'll be a bit less of a...er...challenge. As for me, I'm superwoman. I've got two little ones and no family within a half radius of the globe! I've also got dh working LONG hours where days go by without the kids seeing him. I'm gearing up for 1 week without him followed by 3 more just like that...in succession. Not looking forward to that one bit. Besides that, I do the laundry, wash the dishes and diapers and cook all the meals, if you don't count pizza night, but I've only been doing that a couple times a month. Outside of that I'm pretty much fried. You are a " Jew by Blood " , as you know and you most certainly could live here if TN doesn't float your boat. The law of the land is any person is entitled to immigrate under the Right of Return if they have even 1 grandparent on EITHER SIDE who can prove Jewishness. You, of course, can do much better than that, as you are a halachic Jew (or a full-blooded Jew according to religious Jewish law). And I agree with you that Israel is a mighty fine place. Beautiful scenery and some very special people...you just gotta know where to look. Now that I'm coming out of the culture shock...I'm doing much better. Took a good 2 years though. As for all those places you've mentioned, they are a bit too crowded for me. I'm happy to sit in my little cottage in a forest on a mountain in the North. The weather is great here right now. Rain and thus all is in bloom and green. The trees are dripping with fruit and it really is a paradise. Now, on to the topic at hand. Can anyone spot me a difference between Roman and Blue Chamomile? What about the Lavendars? I'm specifically looking for one that has extra fine regenerative properties (I use it for healing burns and regenerating skin/creating scar tissue). Also, is there a such thing as calendula oil? Or is this only an extract/tincture? If I can get my hands on some flowers and/or (preferrably leaves) I would be happy to try my first tincture with this. But what I'd really like to do is apply externaly for dry or damaged skin on the baby. Any other thoughts about first aid for children, particularly young babies in the way of herbs or oils? I'm really interested in sharing some thoughts on this. As for me the chamomile and lavendar are invaluable. The former is a soothing calming goodie applied externally, espically on the belly for an upset stomach (we also use " arak " here, which is a stiff drink, but also applied externally to the bellies of countless children to aid in their digestion during a gassy/upset stomach). I'm assuming that I could dilute this in a whole bunch of water in a pinch for a tea as well, though, obviously I prefer an infusion. The later, as I mentioned before is great for burns. I have stopped many a blistering burn with lavendar. Why just the other day I stopped a splash of hot oil from blistering the baby's little nose (one drop of oil splashed out of my frying pan while I was cooking...ds had crawled over while my hands were full, in a haste to put everything in the skillet and move him out of the way, I inadvertently tossed in some eggplant with some water on them and SPLASH! Oh, I felt just AWFUL! I'm so grateful it was just one drop that landed on him!) Anyways, I stopped the blister on him, and the blisters on me by applyign directly to the burn. Eucualyptis oil is used frequently in our house for blocked up lungs or other congestion/coughing. I start with having the kids smell it or applying some to a little pillow for them to sleep with. If the situation is more persistant I will apply some in a carrier oil to their backs over their lungs or their chests. If it is really something serious I put a few drops on directly to these areas before bedtime and naps.I've recently learned that this can be taken internally though I have yet to find a person who has done this and am reluctant to try until I can have some more guidance on the matter. Clove oil was a great help in teething. A drop on the gums was all that was needed to help alieviate pain. I tried it out on myself first and boy oh boy is that stuff strong! I intend to use it for any pain that needs numbed. I figure if I can put it in my baby's mouth I should be able to put it just about anywhere. I'm sure all of this stuff is pretty basic to most of you on this list (and you are right Butch...there is a LOT of great information coming from just about everyone on this list...didn't mean to single you out in that way, but I DO appriciate your detailed responses), but this is where I'm at. Can anyone comment on Neem and what that would be used for (pesticide? What else...?) Thanks, Rivkah , " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote: > > Howdy Rivkah, > > Since there has been no reply to your post .. I'll give it a shot. > > > Well, howdy folks! I'm 'a commin' out of lurk mode to introduce > > myself. > > Coming outta lurkdom is good .. more folsk oughta do it. :-) > > > I'm Rivkah, a 28 year old mother of two kids, one daughter who is > > just.like.me. (in mom's voice, to boot!) who will be 3 in just a few > > weeks and a little boy who just turned 1. > > What do you do with all your spare time? My son just turned 22 months > and keeping up with him is tougher than herding cats. ;-) > > > I grew up in Ohio (4 dead in O-hi-o...there's your trivia for the > > day) and lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for about 6 years > > before, ultimately, moving to Israel with my husband, who is, > > incidentially, Israeli. > > My mother's mother was one of the many Nashville, TN Jews. Her father > was Welsh and she never practiced Judiasm .. but I reckon maybe that > linage would qualify me to reside in Israel if I wasn't happy in > Paris, TN. I did leave a few notes in the Western Wall. ;-) > http://health.ph./photos/view/be0 5?b=4 > > A beautiful country for sure. Eilat on the Gulf of Aqaba is a great > vacation spot .. Red Sea SCUBA diving in the world's best. Tel-Aviv > has a super nice seaside prominade, and fantastic restaurants up and > down Rothschild. I stayed a week there .. each evening I would get a > fresh squeezed container of strawberry nectar and then sit and wait > for the Fire and Lights Fountain on Dizengoff Square to start up .. a > very beautiful sight that is. > > > I am what you might call an Orthodox Jew...which puts me on a rather > > broad spectrum, I'm sure, but essentially it's a little bit of > > this...conservative on one issue, liberal on the other. A good > > mismatch of hard to defineness...that sort of thing. > > Eclectic .. huh? Nobody could accuse you of being narrow minded. ;- ) > > > For a while there I was a practicing Wiccan. A monotheist Wiccan, to > > be sure, so it wasn't a big leap from my Jewish/Christian upbringing. > > I was raised a Suthran Baptist .. at 18 I married (for a short time) a > lady who was also too young for marriage .. a Pentecostal Christian. > At 21 I married a Vietnamese Buddhist (R.I.P.), then at 25 a Turkish > secular Moslem who is now a nondenominational Christian and that one > lasted 22+ years .. then at 63 I married my present and best wife, who > is Russian Orthodox and this is my last marriage fer;shur. ;-) My > son was baptised in the Russian Orthodox church last January while we > were in Russia but I intend to make sure that he gets the Round Robin > on religion so he can make his own choice. I haven't had time to try > Wicca but I love nature and my first wife's mother was a witch so I > reckon I have something in common with the Wiccans. ;-) > > > This is where I began to learn a bit about oils and herbs, the latter > > for which I had no interest, until I was diagnosed with Endometriosis > > some 10 years ago. > > > > Then I began to study food as medicine and " alternative " ways of > > healing. > > Good luck to you and may you manage it well. :-) > > > I have been learning worlds of information from Butch and the rest > > of the gang and have just been LOVING the discussion. > > Good it is and thanks for the comment .. there is a lotta good folks > with a lotta good info on this news group. I don't have much to say > about Aromatherapy because I believe that unless one is blatently > unsafe in their use of an EO its a fairly subjective area .. there are > many paths to get where one wants to get to. I sorta concentrate on > safety and quality and the particulars of various EO .. and try to > counter .. or at least balance some of the bad info put out on them. > > > Now, for my questions to you... > > > > My mother is coming to visit and meet her grandson for the first time > > (lord it's been too long since I've seen my mother. I miss her!) and > > I would like her to bring some oils for me. Chamomile is on the top > > of my list...as a third of an ounce (10ml) here in Israel runs me > > around $30 and I have no idea of the quality or shelf life so am > > reluctant to buy, espically since I use so infrequently. > > Not a bad price .. $30 for 10 ml of German Blue Chamomile (Matricaria > chamomilla) and $16 or so for 10 ml of Roman Chamomile (Anthemis > nobilis) is a normal price for pure, quality oils that are not diluted > in a carrier oil. > > > Mainly, I use it for healing. I have an oil I made, intuitively, > > before I knew the first thing about oils, as a belly rub for me and > > then a diaper rash/all purpose healing oil for the children from > > chamomile and lavendar in a sweet almond oil carrier. That lasts an > > awful long time and is extremly effective in healing all forms of > > excema/dry skin/ rash/ cut/ bruise/ you name it that the kids could > > have. In the USA, I just ran out to Whole Foods and picked up > > Wyndmere's Chamomile Roman (in Jojoba)(antheis nobilis) from England > > and their Lavender (lavandula angustifolium) from France. They have > > lasted, literally, YEARS (though the chamomile, I think, is turing > > rancid, though there is really only a drop or two left, so its hard > > to tell). > > Not sure how many year(s) you are talking about but odds are fair that > the oils you have now have long since become oxidized .. unless .. you > kept them under Nitrogen Flush and out of the light in colored bottles > and even then odds are still very good that those mixed with Almond > are bad because Almond has a very short life .. like 6-8 months. If > we mix an oil with a normally expected long life with one that has a > normally expected short life the mixture will become unusable based on > the life of the short life oil. CP Citrus has a short life and Jojoba > has an indefinite life but even if kept at optimum conditions when > mixed together they will go bad within a 12-18 months .. depending on > the manner of storage and handling. > > If Blue Chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla) is stored and handled under > ideal conditions it will keep well from one harvest/distillation to > the next and maybe even a bit longer .. but expecting two years from a > Blue Chamomile is a bit unrealistic. Its easy enough to detect when > Blue Chamomile has passed its normally expected life .. the bright > Blue color will start to turn Greenish .. and you will be able to > detect an odor that will advise you that its off. > > > Anyways, at this point I would like to know a bit more about which of > > these oils is the " best bang for my buck " espically considering that > > money is quite tight and we are working off the local currency and > > not US Dollars, which makes this even more of a challenge. Also, as > > far as carrier oils, should I be trying something new? > > Bang for the buck starts with knowing what you need vs what you don't > and accepting that blends are not always the answer to gain maximum > therapeutic value from an oil or oils. Then you get into quality and > purity .. two different animals cause there are many pure but mediocre > oils out and about .. and then you get into Origin .. a high quality, > pure oil from one Origin will not be the same quality as a high > quality, pure oil from another Origin. Certain countries are well > known for producing the ultimate quality of particular oils. So you > gotta know the Origin as well as being able to be assured that the oil > is not a lower quality (what I call Commercial grade) pure oil. > > > Are there contraindications of certain carrier oils to children or > > pregnant women (for example, how about sesame seed oil or apricot or > > grape...) > > For Carriers .. I doubt it .. none that I know of. > > > and which " keep " the longest or preserve the best. > > That is an easy one .. Fractionated Coconut (Cocos nucifera) and > Jojoba (Simmondsia chinensis) .. though Jojoba is actually not an oil > .. its a wax .. but that is trivia. > > > Also, why is it impossible to find a chamomile not in jojoba oil? > > It is NOT impossible .. and if you bought 10 ml of diluted Chamomile > for $30 then you were cheated .. big time. I sell it pure and some > other folks on this list do too. > > > I understand that jojoba is a preservative? Vit E? Could someone > > clarify? > > That is also an easy one .. its pure, unadultered Hawg Wash .. do not > believe such crap! > > > Also, does anyone know anything about the company " Pure Oil " that is > > commonly sold in Israel? > > Not me. > > > As far as an herbal " bitters " , any suggestions? My dh (dear husband) > > has got such a sensitive stomach and I think this might help him. > > Not sure if he would accept it but my choice would be German > Jagermeister .. I like it big time and it works .. tastes good too. > > > He's also got a motion sickness issue that has intensified with age > > (he's only 30!!!) but now it's pretty serious. As in, if he's in the > > passengers seat he gets car sick and a plane ride sets him back for > > WEEKS!!! Any thoughts on this other than ginger or an acupressure > > bracelet (which we haven't tried, but are aware of)? > > As for natural treatments .. I have none. Ginger is the thing but > there are also many commercial preparations that work. > > > Also, I have been looking for an herbal birth control for a group of > > ladies, and have not been able to find one. Only references to Neem > > Oil (which is not sold to the general public here in Israel) and > > carrot seed, though I have no idea of dosage or contraindications. I > > am not looking for an abortifacient, just something that alters the > > ph a bit and prevents conception. Herbs for either a man or woman are > > fine. > > Odds are there are herbs that would work .. I'm not sure but you > should consult a qualified herbalist. Maybe Martin Watt will comment > on this. > Essential oils .. for get it! Use of same would not be a wise move. > > > Also, looking for anyone who has treated so called " vaccine > > preventable diseases " with herbs/oils and would care to comment on > > their treatment, for those of us who would like to be " in the know " . > > Not me. :-( > > > And finally, I am wondering which books on the " wise woman " > > or " kitchen witch " or " native traditions " (read: NOT TC(or I)M > > (Traditional Chinese or Indian Medicine) any of you might recommend. > > It's not that I don't have a deep and profound respect for TC/IM but > > It just doesn't speak to me in the way that your run of the mill > > native/wise woman traditions do. > > I have no recommendations here either. > > > Mom leaves in about a month, so the faster I can get everything to > > her house the better the chance I'll actually have it when she comes. > > I really can understand your concern .. I lived more than half my > adult life outside the U.S.A. and was always excited when I could get > folks to bring (or send) American things to me. ;-) > > > Thank you to EVERYONE for sharing their knowledge...and themselves > > with the rest of us. > > Welcome you are fer'shur. If you want your mother to bring you some > quality EO I recommend you purchase same from one of the folks on this > news group .. and have them send the products to her. > > > Rivkah > > Shalom .. and y'all keep smiling. :-) > > Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com > > PS: Who (Good Lawd Willing and the Creeks Don't Rise) will have his > new web site on line within 14 days. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 wanted to add another oil to my first aid kit, and that is Tea Tree. I don't know how people did cloth diapers before this. Just a few drops in with the soap on every load keeps the diapers totally clean, soft and fresh. Also keeps rashes off the kids bottoms (though dd is out of diapers, now, B " H). We also use it for all things that need disinfectent. Just cured a case of Athelet's Foot in my dd (don't ASK! This is very rare in children under 12, yet somehow.../rolling eyes. Now you know all my dirty little secrets! ) in about a week and a half. Applied twice a day (morning and night) a drop to the affected area and then made a spray bottle of tap water and a few drops to spray throughout the day. Did this for about three days. Dropped the spray but kept the application for a few more days and then dropped down to once a day. There was a bit left over, but I felt her body was at a place of healing and could do the rest of the job on it's own (it did, B " H). I go through so much of that stuff, I didn't even think of it as I glanced up at my shelf of oils and herbs in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I keep adding more, and I've got to get to bed, but I wanted to add that Evening Primrose Oil was INVALUABLE in keeping my effacement during and " before " labor (read: braxton hicks) going in a nice and gentle manner. That being said, I took Red Raspberry Leaf tea nearly every day of my pregnancy with DS and took an overwhelmingly strong infusion during labor and I would do it a million times over. REALLY helped with the postpartum bleeding and made the labor gentle and effective. Was also given a tincture mix by my midwife (we had a homebirth and midwife is an herbologist) of blue and black cohash, valerian (I believe), skullcap, and probably something else I'm forgetting. Any thoughts about these herbs, anyone? Also in labor my midwife used a carrier oil (sweet almond) with eo of etrog (citron) and a few other things, though I don't remember what. Anyone have any knowledge of where I'd be able to find etrog eo or any other uses for it? Sorry to dominate the list! I'm off to bed. Promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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