Educating Ourselves On How To Determine Quality

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Hello ???

 

aearce2005 " <lisamerrill2007 <lisamerrill2007 wrote:

 

> For not being a personal slam, it sure sounded like one...but then

> again, that's just my opinion.

I don't know who you are but you are not Carmen .. that is who I wrote to.

I reckon its her call (and now Penny's) to decide if my post was a slam.

But as we see in politics .. and news groups .. when one makes a post they

are inviting comment and political correctness is a barrier to truth when

posting on these groups. Carmen made a post and it then became subject to

reply.

 

As for your opinion .. there will always be someone who finds insult in any

post if they wish to find it. Long ago there was a curmudgeon who posted in

protest to my signature block. She said she was damned tired of me telling

folks to " Keep Smiling " .. gave all kinds of reasons why it bothered her.

;-)

 

Opinions are based on expectations and experience and I reckon your

expectations are as different from mine as is our levels of experience. I

think your opinion might have been different if you had been on the list a

long time and knew me and what I have posted for the last 8 + years. I have

3,905 posts in the archive .. obviously all are not informative but many of

them are. I think you have not been on the group long because the posts on

record for you are two in April 2008 and one in March 2008.

 

It is not my desire to stroke folks .. even good customers .. or potential

new customers. I probably have many loyal customers who don't like me but I

reckon they trust me .. that's about all we can ask. If it ever got to a

point where I felt a need to give preferential treatment in replies to

established customers then I need to consider getting out of the business

FAST!

 

On this group are many new folks who have written me and asked for a " magic

bullet " for this or that problem .. and they always get the truth as I know

it .. not the regurgitation's of some AT " novel " . Many of them never

write back because I did not tell them what they wanted to hear but they

found someone else who would. When I see what I consider to be incorrect

information my choices are to ignore it .. or .. comment in hopes that it

can help some of the folks who really want to know the truth.

 

I don't see myself as being a " Know It All " or a Ralph Nader II, but I do

know a thing or three and I know that I (and everyone else) can add very

little to the group if we just sit back and nod our heads like little dogs

with lighted eyes in the rear window of a car. But .. for me, not becoming

too involved is becoming easier and easier as time passes .. I have not quit

yet because there are many folks out there who don't want me to quit. But

I will quit in time .. and that time is not all that far down the road.

 

I turn 66 in July and I am not bored with life .. got too many things I want

and need to do besides messing with news groups and EO. My organic garden

is way too large .. around 4/10ths of an acre now .. and my fruit trees and

flower and herb gardens need more tending .. plus there are just too many

danged fish needing to be caught here in the Kentucky Lake area. But the

most important things is that I have a handsome young son who thinks his

Pappy is as special as I know he is .. and I need to spend a lot more time

with him. We all need to live life like we were dying cause that is what

is really happening. ;-)

 

So .. on opinions .. maybe you should dwell a bit on what you were thinking

when you read the post.

 

> I can't say I know much about how to determine the quality of essential

> oils...I wish I did. The only thing I have to comment on is the fact

> that I know someone who used to work at Young Living and quit because

> he had a guilty conscious...he, like several other people I've heard

> of, has personally seen them add carrier oils to their essential oils.

> Take it as you'd like, but I would never buy from them.

 

I agree that YL is not the most honest outfit around .. in fact, they are

one of the only two buyers I have refused to sell oils to in all my years in

the business. Back when I was exporting bulk direct from Turkey they

attempted to make a large purchase of Origanum from me .. said they kept

their sources secret and all that good humma humma. Their intent was

obvious to me .. they wished to compromise me and shut me up because I had

been (always have) telling it like it was regarding YL and I once had the

honor of being listed as one of 10 folks on their list of enemies. That

list was sent to their Butterfly group or whatever they called it .. folks

YL dealers should avoid. ;-) I told them I would not sell to them.

 

The other person I refused to sell to also wished to compromise me .. it was

the phony Nicole who used to haunt the lists and claim medical credentials

that were totally false. Many will remember that knuckle head and all the

fantasy creatures she created who used to come to her defense. ;-)

 

But .. I can perhaps assist you on your journey of learning how to determine

what is a quality oil. The archive of this list has 52,348 messages

stashed .. of those 3,905 are mine. Just pick a subject and a writer's

name and at the bottom of the messages page you will find " Advanced " .. as

in advanced search. You will find a lot of good information in there.

Try Martin Watt .. Chris Ziegler .. Marge Clark .. Marcia Elston .. Butch

Owen .. and dozens and dozens of other names. If you use a name only you

will find a long listing of every post they have made since the archive was

compiled.

 

For the record .. you will find far fewer posts by the above folks during

the last year or few months .. I'm thinking its because they too are tired

... as I am I. I find that my sales do not decrease or increased based on

the number of posts I make to news groups and I can GUARANTEE that there is

far more important things going on in my life now than dealing with news

groups. Was a time that was not the case but since May 2007 it has been the

case.

 

Folks who have been around this business a while know who their regulars are

and they know that their sales to new folks is built on word of mouth ..

advertising from satisfied customers. They also can easily

identify the level of knowledge of their customers based on the questions

they ask. Finally, long ago they learned that as far as new customers goes

... this is a most fickle industry .. one " aw crap " can wipe out ten

" attaboys " .. thus, they don't depend on the new, small, retail buyer who is

seeking the least costly product and has no knowledge of the importance of

Origins and such to pay their electric bill.

 

Also .. I recommend you consider taking Martin Watt's AT Course .. it will

assist you a lot. And folks might want to edumocate themselves by reading

a few of the articles on his site .. at this link ..

http://www.aromamedical.com/articlesarchive.html ... just don't believe

all he says about conservation issues .. he's a little overboard on some of

them. ;-)

 

A few posts you might want to click on now are below .. those with an

asterisk beside them are pertinent to the issue of Grading of Essential Oils

... i.e., calling them Therapeutic or Medicinal Grade.

 

Storage / Protection / Refrigeration of Essential Oils

http://health./message/26603

18 November 2003

 

Effective Levels Of Essential Oils

http://health./message/46672

20 March 2007

 

Absorption of EO - Skin Patches

http://health./message/46684

21 March 2007

 

Absorption of EO - Skin Patches - II

http://health./message/46685

21 March 2007

 

* Essential Oil Grades

http://health./message/46714

23 March 2007

 

* Distillation Methods ** And Therapeutic Values

http://health./message/46715

23 March 2007

 

* Distillation Methods ** And Therapeutic Values - II

http://health./message/46716

23 March 2007

 

* Distillation Methods ** And Therapeutic Values - III

http://health./message/46717

23 March 2007

 

Mixing Oils - Safety

http://health./message/46719

23 March 2007

 

Lavender 40/42

http://health./message/46904

03 April 2007

 

Melissa Essential Oil Cost - and - Caveat Emptor

http://health./message/47261

15 April 2007

 

Safety of New Essential Oils ** Was: Lemon Tea Tree and Lemon Myrtle

http://health./message/47421

20 April 2007

 

These are but a few but I don't have time to seek out more right now. Like

I said above .. if you have a particular question you will probably find the

answers in the archive. I can not imagine a single question that could be

asked in this business that has not been dealt with many times before on

this group.

 

Just type in the most logical subject. Long ago we tried to get folks to

use subject lines that actually identified the post because finding

information when the subject is like, " I Have a Question " and such is more

difficult than finding an honest politician.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) . Unless you feel like doing otherwise. ;-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/>

 

 

 

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