EO/AT Claims ** Was: Nature's Inventory All Natural Wellness Oil

[Guest guest]

Hello Crazzy Women is it? ;-)

 

BUT What about making traditional/historical claims?

> You know, the ones that have HUNDREDS of years of successful uses?

> That is how I present mine.

> Crazzy Woman

>

 

Adding to what Kathleen wrote .. the BIGGEST problem(s) are that (1) Many

sellers either don't know the true traditional uses or don't care because

the truth is not as good a marketing strategy as is a spin on the truth ..

and (2) There is absolutely nothing to guarantee that traditional use is

SAFE .. and then comes the most important problem .. (3) Almost ALL of the

so-called claims of use of EO for this or that are extrapolations of known

data from use of the PLANTS themselves .. not the extracted oils of those

plants. The chemical profiles are different .. as are the method of using

them and the strengths.

 

Quoting so-called " Traditional Claims " is not going to protect one if the

Federal Communications or Food & Drug folks want to use you as an example ..

the FCC gets involved when one communicates such claims via some form of

media .. including web sites .. the FDA gets involved when one appears to be

prescribing or dispensing medications without a license .. meaning .. they

are not a medical doctor.

 

What are the odds that the FCC or FDA will come down on someone? I don't

know that for sure but it happens .. it happens far more frequently than are

the odds of one hitting the Lotto.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Kathleen Petrides wrote:

> The problem with that is that AT and EO's haven't been around for hundreds

> of years so there is no traditional use or historical claims that one can

> make...

>

> Unless of course one believes the YL crap dished out that they were used in

> biblical times, given to the baby Jesus and all that horse manure. Then one

> can claim whatever one wants cuz it's all a load of complete and utter bull

> excrement. ;-)

>

 

Hi Folks....

 

I'm new to Oils-Herbs...

Some of you might know me from the NP list....Or maybe from the Wild

West days of IDMA...

I suppose the shortest way to describe myself is a Gattefossian AT

person for some time, and now a budding NP'er.....

 

Gattefosse used the term " aromatherapie " in the 20's....

He noticed that certain EOs, in addition to their disinfection

abilities, seemed to promote healing...Valnet followed his work....

 

In the years I've been dabbling with EOs AT wise, I've noted a

consistant assumption (usually, but not always, in sales

literature)....that an EO will have similar effects as it's original

source botanical....

 

In some cases, that's valid....

 

In other cases, that's kinda dead wrong....

 

That's because, except for most of the citrus EOs, the EO gets to its

form via distillation...

 

Distillation does a couple of major things to the components of a

botanical, its plant essential oil....

 

First of all, certain components, the ones that come through, are way

more *concentrated* than in nature......

 

Secondly....some things don't come through the process....

 

So....if an active component in an herbal is one of those.....the EO

really does squat in that aspect....

 

The interesting thing that can happen...take Tansy-Tanacetum

vulgaris-for example....

Long tradition of herbal use for many things....

When distilled, the EO is 60+ percent thujone....

And yet I've seen sales literature promoting it as a cure-all

EO....based on the herbal provenance...

 

The upshot is....ya have to do your homework.....

 

BTW.....the healing power of Lavender EO is one I can personally attest

to, in the matter of burns.....

Was the first EO I ever owned...a gift....(YL yet!)...

A week later, did a nasty burn with my oven....and I remembered (albeit

with many expletives deleted) to splash some of it on.....

 

Amazing......

Said to myself, maybe there *IS* something to this Aromatherapy stuff

after all....<G>...

 

I also know someone who's sensitized to Lavender EO....

 

All of the essences have to be treated with respect...they are potent

and powerful gifts from Ma Gaia....

 

I'm usually not so long winded when I post, and oft spend a lot of time

" cloaked " (lurking)....

 

And pleased to join the List....

 

Regards...

 

--

Gary W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

 

P.S. Courtesy of B.B. Simmons over on the NP list....

This is a fascinating place to visit...

It's a searchable database on mainstream cosmetic/personal care

products....showing potential hazard ingredients...

 

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php?nothanks

 

Y'all might find it interesting....

[Guest guest]

Hey there Crazy Woman....

 

All I can say is proceed with extreme caution!  Historical and anecdotal

information is wonderful because we do have a very rich history to draw upon

when talking about essential oils and herbs.  Just don't go overboard when using

terms like antimicrobial, antibacterial, anti-fungal, ant-inflammatory,

antiseptic and so on unless you have scientific research to back up your brand

of products.

 

Be well,

 

Rachel Markel

www.eoilco.com

http:ingredientmanager

www.GreenTerpene.com

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, j2jcanyon <j2jcanyon wrote:

j2jcanyon <j2jcanyon

EO/AT Claims ** Was: Nature's Inventory All Natural

Wellness Oil

 

Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BUT What about making traditional/ historical claims?

 

You know, the ones that have HUNDREDS of years of successful uses?

 

That is how I present mine.

 

Crazzy Woman

 

 

 

--- Rachel Markel <ramarkel@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> Thank you for the information but you still cannot make any claims.

 

> Once you do you are now marketing a " drug. " The Federal Trade

 

> Commission offers very clear and concise language in regards to this

 

> use of words like; antibacterial, antiviral, anti fungal,

 

> antimicrobial and so on.

 

> Quite frankly, you just don't go there! This is precisely what has

 

> given Aromatherapy in the US a very bad rap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I miss Idma. I was talking to Sue of Lavender Cat today... It was nasty at

times, but what I appreciated about it was that people may have been wrong,

irritating, obnoxious (sue and laughed about that one, as when I joined I

was VERY obnoxious.... hmmmm, ten years on and things haven't changed much)

but they were passionate and they cared about the subject. There were

problems with the list, no argument there, but sometimes it was a hoot,

sometimes frustrating, a lot of times overly arguementative, but, I still

miss it. Which must mean I've extremely warped... but, ya know, I don't

care. ;-)

 

K

 

 

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Kathleen Petrides

Bead Hussy

http://www.BeadHussy.com <http://www.beadhussy.com/>