Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Howdy Genevive, Hi all, I have a question about peppermint growing by my pond. > Someone told me this was peppermint. I have added some pics in the > photo area under Genevive. If this is peppermint, what can I use it > for because it is growing like crazy? Thanks, Genevive > First, your photos are mighty nice .. I salute you .. and your camera. ;-) Second .. this is not an area where I have a lot of expertise .. but from first glance I thought it might be Mentha arvensis .. I might be wrong and would be happy if someone corrects me on this one. I just printed out a copy of your photos .. took them outside and laid them alongside the Peppermint we have growing here .. and they don't match what I have growing. Then I went on line and looked for some photos of Mentha arvensis .. they are here: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/pictures/p09/pages/mentha-arvensis-5.htm http://www.all-creatures.org/picb/wfshl-mint-am-13.html The problem with identifying some Mints is that the leaves will NOT always take the same shape .. in some cases it depends on the location in which they are grown. I have seen Peppermint and Mentha arvensis with both both long, narrow leaves .. and shorter, rounder leaves. Taste is a great way to ID them .. if you have a basis for comparision .. that is, you know what they should taste like. ;-) Another problem is that the Mints cross over a lot .. for example, Peppermint is a cross between Mentha aquatica and Mentha spicata. Another problem with the Mint Family (Lamiaceae) is that the names of plants in that group can be as confusing as those in the Citrus group. For example, Mentha arvensis has a large number of Common Names .. and Scientific Names .. some of the many synonyms are M. arvensis ssp. borealis, and ssp. canadensis, and ssp. glabrata, and ssp. haplocalyx, and ssp. lanata, and ssp. sativa, and var. villosa, and Mentha gentilis, and Mentha glabrior, and Mentha penardii .. to name a few. ;-) I think that what you have is not Peppermint .. I think it is Mentha arvensis .. sometimes called Field Mint or Apple Mint. I might be wrong so I am not willing to stand by my opinion in the face of opposition. ;-) As for using the plants .. distillation is one option but you would need a good bit to do that .. expect maybe 18 kilograms of oil from 1 metric ton of plants. ;-) More practical uses can be found all over the Net .. same goes for Peppermint .. here is one good take on it. http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Mentha+arvensis+villosa Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 It does look like an insanely prolific mint that I once bought as " applemint " , one of the names of mentha arvensis. I have been ripping it out of the vegetable garden by the handful. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Thanks for your input. Now I'm really confused...LOL. just kidding. It's growing like crazy and I think that next year I'll have even more. Last year I didn't see any flowers on it. I was just wondering what I could use it for like maybe tea... I don't know anything about distillation. So if I can use it as a tea maybe I'll do that but I'm not crazy about mint but I heard it's good for upset stomachs I think. Thanks, Genevive --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Butch Owen <butchowen wrote: Butch Owen <butchowen Peppermint - Or Another Mint? Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:11 PM Howdy Genevive, Hi all, I have a question about peppermint growing by my pond. > Someone told me this was peppermint. I have added some pics in the > photo area under Genevive. If this is peppermint, what can I use it > for because it is growing like crazy? Thanks, Genevive > First, your photos are mighty nice .. I salute you .. and your camera. ;-) Second .. this is not an area where I have a lot of expertise .. but from first glance I thought it might be Mentha arvensis .. I might be wrong and would be happy if someone corrects me on this one. I just printed out a copy of your photos .. took them outside and laid them alongside the Peppermint we have growing here .. and they don't match what I have growing. Then I went on line and looked for some photos of Mentha arvensis .. they are here: http://www.henriett esherbal. com/pictures/ p09/pages/ mentha-arvensis- 5.htm http://www.all- creatures. org/picb/ wfshl-mint- am-13.html The problem with identifying some Mints is that the leaves will NOT always take the same shape .. in some cases it depends on the location in which they are grown. I have seen Peppermint and Mentha arvensis with both both long, narrow leaves .. and shorter, rounder leaves. Taste is a great way to ID them .. if you have a basis for comparision .. that is, you know what they should taste like. ;-) Another problem is that the Mints cross over a lot .. for example, Peppermint is a cross between Mentha aquatica and Mentha spicata. Another problem with the Mint Family (Lamiaceae) is that the names of plants in that group can be as confusing as those in the Citrus group. For example, Mentha arvensis has a large number of Common Names .. and Scientific Names .. some of the many synonyms are M. arvensis ssp. borealis, and ssp. canadensis, and ssp. glabrata, and ssp. haplocalyx, and ssp. lanata, and ssp. sativa, and var. villosa, and Mentha gentilis, and Mentha glabrior, and Mentha penardii .. to name a few. ;-) I think that what you have is not Peppermint .. I think it is Mentha arvensis .. sometimes called Field Mint or Apple Mint. I might be wrong so I am not willing to stand by my opinion in the face of opposition. ;-) As for using the plants .. distillation is one option but you would need a good bit to do that .. expect maybe 18 kilograms of oil from 1 metric ton of plants. ;-) More practical uses can be found all over the Net .. same goes for Peppermint .. here is one good take on it. http://www.pfaf. org/database/ plants.php? Mentha+arvensis+ villosa Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV- AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Is it me or are the roots strong. Genevive --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote: Ieneke van Houten <ienvan Re: Peppermint - Or Another Mint? Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 7:07 PM It does look like an insanely prolific mint that I once bought as " applemint " , one of the names of mentha arvensis. I have been ripping it out of the vegetable garden by the handful. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliv ing.com ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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