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Hi,

I was hoping I could get some advice on how to help an extremely sensitive

stomach. I can't eat anything citrus, spicy, berries, teas, tomatoes or

peppers.  Nuts and bananas are sometimes painful. Most fruits are painful, too. 

Any time I try to take a supplement to help, it just ends up hurting my stomach,

or causing me a different problem - for instance diglycerizaed licorice gives me

eye pain and headache.  Some natural supplements make my heart race.

 

I have tried different things to help,such as digestive enzymes. They helped for

a few months, but then the company (Enzymedia) changed their formula and so the

Digest Gold wasn't working for me anymore.

 

My symptoms are: hot burning stomach, stomach pain close to the sternum area

where the esophagus meets the stomach, painful to touch the stomach when it's

really bad, sometimes acid reflux, too.

 

I'm normally able to control this through a very bland natural diet, but if i

ever try any new supplements, or new foods, it sets the problem off for a few

days/weeks.

 

Right now, the best things that help are aloe vera juice, make cucumber juice,

eat yogurt. 

 

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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there is a site called kitchen doctor.com there is a herb mentioned

there - galangal. she also mentions some other herbs great for

digestion. when i get a chance i will look at my notes. i think the

other is coriander. i wrote to her & she said it is better to use

the raw herbs yet i cannot find them. you can get the galangal in an

eo to make a massage oil to massage the ab before & after eating.

just be sure when massaging you only go clockwise - otherwise it

might actually make it worse as you will be going in the opposite

direction of digestion. this was a very informative site that really

helped me. i hope it helps you too

 

 

, Jennifer <jennifertok

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I was hoping I could get some advice on how to help an extremely

sensitive stomach. I can't eat anything citrus, spicy, berries, teas,

tomatoes or peppers.  Nuts and bananas are sometimes painful. Most

fruits are painful, too.  Any time I try to take a supplement to

help, it just ends up hurting my stomach, or causing me a different

problem - for instance diglycerizaed licorice gives me eye pain and

headache.  Some natural supplements make my heart race.

>

> I have tried different things to help,such as digestive enzymes.

They helped for a few months, but then the company (Enzymedia)

changed their formula and so the Digest Gold wasn't working for me

anymore.

>

> My symptoms are: hot burning stomach, stomach pain close to the

sternum area where the esophagus meets the stomach, painful to touch

the stomach when it's really bad, sometimes acid reflux, too.

>

> I'm normally able to control this through a very bland natural

diet, but if i ever try any new supplements, or new foods, it sets

the problem off for a few days/weeks.

>

> Right now, the best things that help are aloe vera juice, make

cucumber juice, eat yogurt. 

>

> Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

>

> Jennifer

>

 

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Acupuncture.

You could also try peppermint, peppermint tea, for instance. I would stay

away from ginger, if your problem is burning. Ginger has a hot, pungent

property. Interesting about licorice. Do you have any liver issues?

 

 

 

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" Jennifer " <jennifertok

 

Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:28 AM

extremely sensitive stomach

 

 

Hi,

I was hoping I could get some advice on how to help an extremely sensitive

stomach. I can't eat anything citrus, spicy, berries, teas, tomatoes or

peppers. Nuts and bananas are sometimes painful. Most fruits are painful,

too. Any time I try to take a supplement to help, it just ends up hurting my

stomach, or causing me a different problem - for instance diglycerizaed

licorice gives me eye pain and headache. Some natural supplements make my

heart race.

 

I have tried different things to help,such as digestive enzymes. They helped

for a few months, but then the company (Enzymedia) changed their formula and

so the Digest Gold wasn't working for me anymore.

 

My symptoms are: hot burning stomach, stomach pain close to the sternum area

where the esophagus meets the stomach, painful to touch the stomach when

it's really bad, sometimes acid reflux, too.

 

I'm normally able to control this through a very bland natural diet, but if

i ever try any new supplements, or new foods, it sets the problem off for a

few days/weeks.

 

Right now, the best things that help are aloe vera juice, make cucumber

juice, eat yogurt.

 

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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jennifer, don't you think it's about time you saw a medical doctor?

that's a whole list of symptoms that sound pretty painful and you're

asking a for advice. my cousins husband had some strange

pain like that-he was seeing a chiropractor and asked his advice-he

told him it was heartburn and to eat some antacids. so he did. he

also dropped dead three weeks later because it wasn't acid reflux but

a bad ticker. so when you say, i cant eat this , this , this or this

and if i try taking this it burns my eyeballss.... get to the doctor

girl..

 

 

, Jennifer <jennifertok

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I was hoping I could get some advice on how to help an extremely

sensitive stomach. I can't eat anything citrus, spicy, berries, teas,

tomatoes or peppers.  Nuts and bananas are sometimes painful. Most

fruits are painful, too.  Any time I try to take a supplement to

help, it just ends up hurting my stomach, or causing me a different

problem - for instance diglycerizaed licorice gives me eye pain and

headache.  Some natural supplements make my heart race.

>

> I have tried different things to help,such as digestive enzymes.

They helped for a few months, but then the company (Enzymedia)

changed their formula and so the Digest Gold wasn't working for me

anymore.

>

> My symptoms are: hot burning stomach, stomach pain close to the

sternum area where the esophagus meets the stomach, painful to touch

the stomach when it's really bad, sometimes acid reflux, too.

>

> I'm normally able to control this through a very bland natural

diet, but if i ever try any new supplements, or new foods, it sets

the problem off for a few days/weeks.

>

> Right now, the best things that help are aloe vera juice, make

cucumber juice, eat yogurt. 

>

> Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

>

> Jennifer

>

 

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I really hate to say this, but you need to go see a gastroenterologist. A

dear friend of mine had very similar symptoms and had to have surgery to

have her esophagus and upper stomach repaired. The lower esoph. was nearly

eaten away with acid. I realize that you would rather heal or help it

naturally, but unless you repair or heal what has already happened, it will

just continue.

 

Regards,

 

Anita

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Anita. I did see a gastroenterologist when the symptoms

were really bad in 2003. I had an endoscopy. They told me that I had

GERD and gastritis. They said there was no ulcer. I also had an ultra

sound to check for gallstones, and they didn't find anything.

They told me that the GERD and gastritis aren't curable, that I just

have to learn how to manage the symptoms. Their solution was to take

prescription Nexium, which was increasing my liver function. Then I

tried prescription Prevacid. I have heard really bad things about

prolonged taking of acid suppressors.

When I tried the enzymes, they were really working for me, it's too

bad they changed their formula.

Since 2003, I have been mostly able to manage my symptoms through

diet. Sometimes when I stray from my routine eating habits for a

while, then the symptoms come back.

For the last year or so, I haven't really been noticing pain with my

stomach. Then I ate some foods with ingredients I was not familiar

with recently and it set the whole thing off again. I was recently

trying to cleanse my body with charcoal because there was a water main

break in my town recently, so maybe the water was affected in some way.

 

In any case, I still would like some suggestions on diet. I have

heard different things that are supposed to be good for the stomach,

and sometimes they are contradictory.

 

 

 

, " Anita Reeves " <anita-r wrote:

>

> I really hate to say this, but you need to go see a

gastroenterologist. A

> dear friend of mine had very similar symptoms and had to have surgery to

> have her esophagus and upper stomach repaired. The lower esoph. was

nearly

> eaten away with acid. I realize that you would rather heal or help it

> naturally, but unless you repair or heal what has already happened,

it will

> just continue.

>

> Regards,

>

> Anita

>

>

>

>

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, " jennifertok "

<jennifertok wrote:

 

Hi Jennifer,

 

I had a bleeding ulcer a few years back that came from N-Saids

(aspirin, Aleve, Motrin, etc.), so I can't take any N-Saids at all

anymore. A doctor told me to take aspirin and Aleve together after a

car accident, and boy, was he wrong! It ate out my stomach lining.

 

I also had acid reflux disease and iron deficiency anemia along with

it. So, I can relate to what you're going through! The doctor (not

the same one!) put me on Prilosec, but I had a dream telling me it

was " poison " ... for me, not necessarily for anyone else... though,

like you, I've also heard that it's not good to use long term, and

many people stay on it for years! It totally shuts down acid

production, and we actually need acid production to digest our food

and make the nutrients available for our use, so it makes sense not

to stay on the stuff. I pay a lot of attention to my dreams for

health information, and have found they always tell me what I need!

 

What I've found that has helped me is Aloe Vera Juice, as you've

said, and chewing caraway seeds for an antacid. Marshmallow Root is

soothing. Rosemary or Fennel teas help. I have a lot of allergy

problems, so I never use any blended things, just single herbs, so I

can tell what's causing a reaction if anything does.

 

Since I can't take N-Saids, I use herbs for anti-inflammatories. I

use Elderberry, Boswellia, Bromelain, and Ginger. Someone I noticed

suggested Peppermint, but that aids digestion by producing more acid,

so is not a good idea if you have acid reflux, really. Ginger is

better, soothing in many ways, as it is also a natural pain killer.

The Bromelain is also a digestive aid, or you can use Papain

instead. Bromelain comes from pineapples and papain from papaya, so

the fresh raw fruit is also beneficial.

 

Most important, imo, is eating a diet that doesn't produce too much

acid. Since I also have fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis, this is

also important for my joints and muscles. One quick way to reduce

acid buildup is to drink a large glass of water with a hefty squeeze

of lemon juice in it. Lemon actually neutralizes acid, which sounds

odd since it's acidic, but it works!

 

I also printed out at one point a list of foods that leave the system

alkaline vs. acid. I'll try to find that site again later. Mainly

though, it's a matter of eating less animal proteins and especially

fats, and eating more fruits, vegetables, whole grains. Some veggies

that are particularly soothing to my stomach are baked sweet

potatoes, or sweet potato oven fries. Regular white potatoes baked

or boiled or made into soup. Cabbage either stir fried or made into

juice, or included with the potatoes in soup. These are things I can

count on to get me back in balance.

 

My ulcer is actually healed after going vegetarian for two and a half

years, but I'm still very sensitive to ground peppers and cinnamon,

and have to read labels to avoid them. I hate reading labels, but

when I don't, I'm always getting home and finding I've eaten

something with a lot of pepper or cayenne or something! I'm back to

eating some meat, but far less than I used to, and lower fat

varieties. I was feeling tired all the time without it. But the

vegetarian diet did allow the ulcer to heal! I know you don't have

an ulcer, but it's something to consider, maybe? I eat my meat for

breakfast, brunch, or lunch, not at dinner time, when I prefer a

vegetarian meal so that my stomach isn't making so much acid during

the night. Acid reflux is worse when we're lying down. When I first

had mine, I spent several weeks sleeping in my recliner, and I hated

it!

 

I hope some of that helps. I'm not a medical professional, just

someone who works with self-healing through dreams and inner

guidance, and loves learning more about it!

 

Love & Light, Barbara

 

" Hope is the thing with feathers

That perches in the soul,

And sings the tune without the words,

And never stops at all... " --Emily Dickinson

 

 

>

> Thank you Anita. I did see a gastroenterologist when the symptoms

> were really bad in 2003. I had an endoscopy. They told me that I

had

> GERD and gastritis. They said there was no ulcer. I also had an

ultra

> sound to check for gallstones, and they didn't find anything.

> They told me that the GERD and gastritis aren't curable, that I just

> have to learn how to manage the symptoms. Their solution was to take

> prescription Nexium, which was increasing my liver function. Then I

> tried prescription Prevacid. I have heard really bad things about

> prolonged taking of acid suppressors.

> When I tried the enzymes, they were really working for me, it's too

> bad they changed their formula.

> Since 2003, I have been mostly able to manage my symptoms through

> diet. Sometimes when I stray from my routine eating habits for a

> while, then the symptoms come back.

> For the last year or so, I haven't really been noticing pain with my

> stomach. Then I ate some foods with ingredients I was not familiar

> with recently and it set the whole thing off again. I was recently

> trying to cleanse my body with charcoal because there was a water

main

> break in my town recently, so maybe the water was affected in some

way.

>

> In any case, I still would like some suggestions on diet. I have

> heard different things that are supposed to be good for the stomach,

> and sometimes they are contradictory.

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I'm all for self-treatment of minor things and of course for

alternative medicine, but this is a situation where you should be

checked out by an MD. It might be a herination (tissue inverting and

going the other way). Sorry it's early in the morning and my brain

is not coming up with the name of the valve (hiatal hernia?), but

it's the one between the stomach and hte esophagus and herination is

common and will cause acid reflux. Mild cases can be fixed by a

chiropractor or osteopath (not all do this adjustment so ask first)

and they can teach you how to do it yourself because one adjustment

isn't going to fix it forever. A more serious case will take more

work and you might be offered surgery (by the MD).

 

You could have an ulcer in your stomach or one in your esophagus.

 

There could be a malformation, an injury (from the acid reflux or

from a foreign object/heat), or even a mass.

 

You don't have to take the MD's suggestions for treatment (for most

of the above they'll give you drugs that reduce stomach acid but

these have a lot of undesirable effects, like poor digestion) but I

would use one for diagnosis in this case. Know exactly what you're

dealing with and then you can find dietary, herbal, and other

treatments that work to balance your body and heal it.

 

Traditional could be very helpful too and can help

with diagnosis.

 

Good luck,

Cyndi

Tikvah Organics

http://www.tikvah.com/

 

 

 

On Dec 14, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Jennifer wrote:

 

> Hi,

> I was hoping I could get some advice on how to help an extremely

> sensitive stomach. I can't eat anything citrus, spicy, berries,

> teas, tomatoes or peppers. Nuts and bananas are sometimes painful.

> Most fruits are painful, too. Any time I try to take a supplement

> to help, it just ends up hurting my stomach, or causing me a

> different problem - for instance diglycerizaed licorice gives me

> eye pain and headache. Some natural supplements make my heart race.

>

> I have tried different things to help,such as digestive enzymes.

> They helped for a few months, but then the company (Enzymedia)

> changed their formula and so the Digest Gold wasn't working for me

> anymore.

>

> My symptoms are: hot burning stomach, stomach pain close to the

> sternum area where the esophagus meets the stomach, painful to

> touch the stomach when it's really bad, sometimes acid reflux, too.

>

> I'm normally able to control this through a very bland natural

> diet, but if i ever try any new supplements, or new foods, it sets

> the problem off for a few days/weeks.

>

> Right now, the best things that help are aloe vera juice, make

> cucumber juice, eat yogurt.

>

> Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

>

> Jennifer

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On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:00 AM, jennifertok wrote:

 

> Thank you Anita. I did see a gastroenterologist when the symptoms

> were really bad in 2003. I had an endoscopy. They told me that I had

> GERD and gastritis. They said there was no ulcer. I also had an ultra

> sound to check for gallstones, and they didn't find anything.

> They told me that the GERD and gastritis aren't curable, that I just

> have to learn how to manage the symptoms.

 

I sort by subject for my soap lists but things get out of order if

they have extra " re's " and such, so I wrote my last reply without

seeing this one.

 

I'm really glad you got a full workup but that was 5-6 years ago. My

advice is to go back (or to a better gastro, maybe you can find one

with a more holistic outlook). Remember, allopathic doctors aren't

really good at seeing what will happen, only what already has

happened. They don't tend to look at underlying conditions and how

the body is out of balance. So if they said there was no ulcer or

acid damage, that doesn't mean you weren't on the verge of developing

these. Things may be very different now.

 

> Their solution was to take

> prescription Nexium, which was increasing my liver function. Then I

> tried prescription Prevacid. I have heard really bad things about

> prolonged taking of acid suppressors.

 

I wouldn't take either drug myself, but I would take the diagnosis

and find a professional (my personal preference is an acupuncturist

trained in Traditional (preferably in China)) and

get it treated.

 

> When I tried the enzymes, they were really working for me, it's too

> bad they changed their formula.

 

There are other companies, you may be able to find something similar

to the old one, or perhaps use a compounding pharmacy. The company

should be able to tell you what the changes are (whether they WILL is

another story, but it's worth asking) so you can seek out what you need.

 

> Since 2003, I have been mostly able to manage my symptoms through

> diet. Sometimes when I stray from my routine eating habits for a

> while, then the symptoms come back.

> For the last year or so, I haven't really been noticing pain with my

> stomach. Then I ate some foods with ingredients I was not familiar

> with recently and it set the whole thing off again.

 

There's some serious underlying imbalance there. Controlling isn't

enough.

 

> I was recently

> trying to cleanse my body with charcoal because there was a water main

> break in my town recently, so maybe the water was affected in some

> way.

 

I wonder if part of the problem is your gut ecology. Probiotics,

fermented vegetables (very cheap and easy to make), and so forth

might be very helpful in the longer run, if your stomach tolerates

them. Books: Body Ecology Diet (I haven't read it so can't comment

on it specifically) and Wild Fermentation (fabulous how-to book).

 

Cyndi

Tikvah Organics

http://www.tikvah.com/

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