Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 In a message dated 12/17/2008 6:33:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, earthmotheressentials writes: Hi Earth Mother, The things I bought: the lotion came from _mikmaq-essence.com_ (http://mikmaq-essence.com) ... it's on the bottle. They have other sweetgrass scented products as well, but no essential oil. It is sooo yummy smelling. I love it! The scent lasts all day too. The rendezvous where I bought it brings in tribal members from all over the U.S. and some from Canada and South America as well. The woman was Canadian who made this, I think, or her ancestry is, not sure. The soap I found was made here in Connecticut, but is not listed on their site. A nearby orchard store started carrying a lot of their soaps, and I snapped up all the bars of Sweetgrass. It smells just as good as the lotion, but the scent doesn't last as long by itself, not surprising, since of course I rinse the soap off! Their site is _www.sleepymoonsoaps.com_ (http://www.sleepymoonsoaps.com) . They give classes and stuff too, if anyone wants to see the mountain area in NW CT. I'm in the SE. I have no problem finding the dried braids of Sweetgrass or buying them. Fresh might be harder. I live near Connecticut's two Indian Casinos, Foxwoods and the Mohegan Sun, and they have regular rendezvous/pow-wows. There are many shops around that carry it as well. But I really would rather have the oil, as I have allergy problems from smudging, especially in winter when the house is closed up. Oil in the aromatherapy diffuser won't bother me. Metaphysical/New Age bookstores usually stock the grass for smudging as well. I'm sending a recipe for Sweetgrass Oil that I found in a separate post. I'm not sure if that qualifies as an essential oil though, as I don't know what defines it, exactly. What tribe is your husband from? I am a small part Narragansett (Rhode Island tribe) on my biological father's side, but didn't know that until I met him when in my thirties. It explained why I love all things Indian though! I will have to check into that Yucca plant! I have learned enough to know to avoid " fragrance " oils. I'm generally allergic to them, which makes it easy to tell the difference! Your combination soap idea sounds great! Go for it! I'm off to bed now, and thanks for responding. It was a general question for everyone really, so I did ask YOU too! Goodnight... sweet dreams! Love & Light, Barbara " Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune without the words, And never stops at all... " --Emily Dickinson I am not the one you asked but I have been told there is no true eo of sweetgrass. There are some dupes....my husband is indian and we do use many blends of things for certain things. That said, I've seen some say they do have an authentic oil of sweet grass but that is a divided opinion. I would LOVE to have that. I make soaps for special purposes for specific people. The plant itself is in some of my things. I am now allowed however to sell a sacred herb to anyone. I've purchased a sg oil, was very disappointed.The plant itself is in some of my things. I am now allowed however to I know the native peoples I live amongst would not like me to commercially sell what is sacred to them. It's my opinion however, as long as I don't do ceremony using their traditional sacred plants, all plants are for ALL people and four leggeds, wing relations and water relations. Years ago there was a product that was called Yucca dew or Yucca do and the plant is Sacred to the Navajo and upset many elders and it was petitioned and finally not sold any more. Pity, its a very healing plant. I like it much better than aloe anyday. It does not mean I don't use it. It is also a great infammatory by mouth and on the body. Google a search and see what you come up with. I know of many 'uncut essential FRAGRANCE oils' I found amusing. To come up with that true note of sweetgrass, you might be able to use tonka, sweetgrass,and hay in a tincture, not sure or heliotrope, it too has a vanillin aspect of it. One of these days I'll give the helio a try... If you find any holler at me! I do make a purifying soap , I don't sell to the general public. I would like to make the authentic blend of sweetgrass, sage, cedar , kinikinik(sp) tobacco. I'm fixing to do an indian perfume soap. Sure glad I picked these when they were still fresh and in bloom! I would think some of the more balsam scents in combination with other oils would also work. **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I am not the one you asked but I have been told there is no true eo of sweetgrass. There are some dupes....my husband is indian and we do use many blends of things for certain things. That said, I've seen some say they do have an authentic oil of sweet grass but that is a divided opinion. I would LOVE to have that. I make soaps for special purposes for specific people. The plant itself is in some of my things. I am now allowed however to sell a sacred herb to anyone. I've purchased a sg oil, was very disappointed......I have to wonder if a very heavy tincture or infusion might work. I know the native peoples I live amongst would not like me to commercially sell what is sacred to them. It's my opinion however, as long as I don't do ceremony using their traditional sacred plants, all plants are for ALL people and four leggeds, wing relations and water relations. Years ago there was a product that was called Yucca dew or Yucca do and the plant is Sacred to the Navajo and upset many elders and it was petitioned and finally not sold any more. Pity, its a very healing plant. I like it much better than aloe anyday. It does not mean I don't use it. It is also a great infammatory by mouth and on the body. Google a search and see what you come up with. I know of many 'uncut essential FRAGRANCE oils' I found amusing. To come up with that true note of sweetgrass, you might be able to use tonka, sweetgrass,and hay in a tincture, not sure or heliotrope, it too has a vanillin aspect of it. One of these days I'll give the helio a try... If you find any holler at me! I do make a purifying soap , I don't sell to the general public. I would like to make the authentic blend of sweetgrass, sage, cedar , kinikinik(sp) tobacco. I'm fixing to do an indian perfume soap. Sure glad I picked these when they were still fresh and in bloom! I would think some of the more balsam scents in combination with other oils would also work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 corrected type now to 'not'. I just ain't that special =) --- On Wed, 12/17/08, Selkie <earthmotheressentials wrote: Selkie <earthmotheressentials Re: Barbara's Intro and Sweetgrass??? Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:33 PM I am not the one you asked but I have been told there is no true eo of sweetgrass. There are some dupes....my husband is indian and we do use many blends of things for certain things. That said, I've seen some say they do have an authentic oil of sweet grass but that is a divided opinion. I would LOVE to have that. I make soaps for special purposes for specific people. The plant itself is in some of my things. I am NOT allowed however to sell a sacred herb to anyone. I've purchased a sg oil, was very disappointed......I have to wonder if a very heavy tincture or infusion might work. I know the native peoples I live amongst would not like me to commercially sell what is sacred to them. It's my opinion however, as long as I don't do ceremony using their traditional sacred plants, all plants are for ALL people and four leggeds, wing relations and water relations. Years ago there was a product that was called Yucca dew or Yucca do and the plant is Sacred to the Navajo and upset many elders and it was petitioned and finally not sold any more. Pity, its a very healing plant. I like it much better than aloe anyday. It does not mean I don't use it. It is also a great infammatory by mouth and on the body. Google a search and see what you come up with. I know of many 'uncut essential FRAGRANCE oils' I found amusing. To come up with that true note of sweetgrass, you might be able to use tonka, sweetgrass,and hay in a tincture, not sure or heliotrope, it too has a vanillin aspect of it. One of these days I'll give the helio a try... If you find any holler at me! I do make a purifying soap , I don't sell to the general public. I would like to make the authentic blend of sweetgrass, sage, cedar , kinikinik(sp) tobacco. I'm fixing to do an indian perfume soap. Sure glad I picked these when they were still fresh and in bloom! I would think some of the more balsam scents in combination with other oils would also work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 There is no Eo of sweetgrass, what is out there smelling like it are fragrance oils that contain coumarin, coumarin is what gives sweet grass, sweet white clover and sweet woodruff that certain 'special' vanilla type of scent. Sweetgrass is dying out in the wild more and more, although it will relocate if one knows how to transplant it and when. Please, never buy bundles or braids that still have roots on them. In order for sweet grass to come back every year it needs to be cut with a knife or scissors. Some soapers use the water from 'curing' the sweetgrass, but that by itself does not hold it's scent very long, it will need a fixative. Holy cedar oil is still made by a handful of Ojibwe, it's infused, not steam distilled.The process takes over a month of fiddling with it. Once you have smelled the real sacred cedar oil you immediately will know the difference from it's cousins, the steam distilled kind that is sold at Powwows. Sacred cedar will never be sold or the process of how to make it will be published. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thank you CM. You dealt with this better than I. --- On Thu, 12/18/08, C Maria <cmaria wrote: C Maria <cmaria Re: Barbara's Intro and Sweetgrass??? Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:10 PM There is no Eo of sweetgrass, what is out there smelling like it are fragrance oils that contain coumarin, coumarin is what gives sweet grass, sweet white clover and sweet woodruff that certain 'special' vanilla type of scent. Sweetgrass is dying out in the wild more and more, although it will relocate if one knows how to transplant it and when. Please, never buy bundles or braids that still have roots on them. In order for sweet grass to come back every year it needs to be cut with a knife or scissors. Some soapers use the water from 'curing' the sweetgrass, but that by itself does not hold it's scent very long, it will need a fixative. Holy cedar oil is still made by a handful of Ojibwe, it's infused, not steam distilled.The process takes over a month of fiddling with it. Once you have smelled the real sacred cedar oil you immediately will know the difference from it's cousins, the steam distilled kind that is sold at Powwows. Sacred cedar will never be sold or the process of how to make it will be published. C-M --- The information contained in these e-mails is not a substitute for diagnosis and treatment by a qualified, licensed professional. Absolutely no forwarding or copying, in whole or in part, of any messages or postings to others outside the list without the express, written consent of every author of a message included in the forward or copy. To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 oh gosh, dh is cherokee, osage, irish, chicksaw, scots irish, commanche/apache and some other white guy LOL......not many full bloods left tribal wise. Cherokee , no. No full cherokee left. The joke in the pow wow circuit is whats the difference between a white manand a cherokee?.....................ROLL NUMBER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 In a message dated 12/18/2008 3:11:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cmaria writes: Hi CMaria, Would those fragrance oils be made using something like the recipe I posted earlier? Is that an infusion? I'm still somewhat new to this, and am unsure what the difference is between an essential oil and an oil infusion. That contained oil, not water, and listed one as a fixative. I don't want it for soap, but for aromatherapy in my diffuser. There's nothing in those that would trigger my allergies, which is my major concern with them. I've never even seen bundles or braids with roots attached! I did note that seeds for Sweetgrass are available out there, so I'm sure one could grow it if in the right climate, or maybe could go to _www.nature.org_ (http://www.nature.org) and petition the Nature Conservancy to take it on as a conservation project. They do a lot of work establishing new environments for endangered species, such as growing fields of Blue Lupines to re-establish the lovely little bright blue Karner butterflies. Perhaps if they find Sweetgrass, or something that needs it for survival, to be endangered, they would love to take that on! I'm personally of the mindset that if a thing is truly sacred, it will go where *Spirit* wishes it to go, and attempting to keep something only to oneself is unlikely to either work or be rewarded, but maybe that's just me. Whether I call the Great Spirit Sophia for my Gnostic self, or Cautantowitt for my Narragansett self matters not. Only Spirit determines where the wind blows, and who has the right to use what, imo. And I am up too early this morning, pondering the meaning of waking at 5:55! I dreamed I was dying my hair reddish blonde, watching actress Swoozie Kurtz, and how her hair looked with the gray peeking out. LOL! My actual hair is long silver gray. But my puppy Lily's is reddish blonde, and I commented yesterday that I wished mine was like hers, so I guess that became the dream. Now Lily has heard me typing so I must go and get her out of her bed and tend her needs! I'll be back! Love & Light, Barbara " Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune without the words, And never stops at all... " --Emily Dickinson <<<There is no Eo of sweetgrass, what is out there smelling like it are fragrance oils that contain coumarin, coumarin is what gives sweet grass, sweet white clover and sweet woodruff that certain 'special' vanilla type of scent. Sweetgrass is dying out in the wild more and more, although it will relocate if one knows how to transplant it and when. Please, never buy bundles or braids that still have roots on them. In order for sweet grass to come back every year it needs to be cut with a knife or scissors. Some soapers use the water from 'curing' the sweetgrass, but that by itself does not hold it's scent very long, it will need a fixative. Holy cedar oil is still made by a handful of Ojibwe, it's infused, not steam distilled.The process takes over a month of fiddling with it. Once you have smelled the real sacred cedar oil you immediately will know the difference from it's cousins, the steam distilled kind that is sold at Powwows. Sacred cedar will never be sold or the process of how to make it will be published. C-M>>> **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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