OT: Thank You Butch!

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Howdy Evie,

 

> That explanation is not only one of the most eloquent responses to a

> subject, but addressed so that we can all understand the concept.

>

 

Glad you thought so .. and thanks.

 

 

> thanks for your service btw. I come from a long line of those who

> served/serve. My grandfather lied about his age, got into the last of ww1,

> served ww2 and korea and retired as Lt. Col. I am very proud of his record .

> My dad was army air corp and my daughter and son in law are both combat

> meteorlogists. One is over Seas and the other soon to go.

>

 

Good for them .. its nice to have such memories. I thank the military for

allowing me to serve. Everyone who wants to serve is not always allowed to

do so and even then they are not always allowed to serve for as long as they

want to.

 

 

> I also appreciate the manner in which you shared what you thought of

> your troops and as a mother of military young people, it is my wish they

> have a Commander such as yourself to serve. I indeed appreciated the options

> you gave your troop if in a bind...my husband for the first time I've read

> anything from this board or soapers boards took notice and said 'who wrote

> that?' and I told him so now his daily dose of macho and ethics are now

> turning his opinion on this biz and the integrity there of. I forwarded your

> email to my daughter. She will appreciate it. She serves with complete honor

> and dignity and doesn't tolerate much tho she does also have options of her

> own given her rank.....as she rises and I know she will, I think this will

> be a good reference now and again when it comes to dealing with troops in

> general and she does love to teach the 'why's.

>

 

I thank your husband and hope your daughter finds the post useful.

 

The days when you told troops to do things without explaining why (when you

could) had passed even while I was serving .. but the days of demanding

honor and integrity have not passed nor do I think they will ever pass.

Even today we demand more of our officers and NCOs than we demand of our

higher ranking elected officials .. and we darn sure get more from those

soldiers.

 

There are valid reasons why all the service academies have not tolerance for

lying or cheating .. one violation and you are OUT. Even some select

civilian universities have no tolerance for cheating. One can not practice

ethics part time .. but unfortunately, we do not demand these standards in

the civilian world of business and politics. Politicans who have been

caught with their hands in the cookie jar and are even under indictment

often run for office again and are elected! This is Banana Republic

mentality and it shows that our moral standards have become too low.

Civilian authorities are fortunate in that the military CHOOSES to remain

subordinate to them .. but I believe that there is a limit to how long that

might last. I hope we never see that limit breached but it is not totally

beyond logical imagination. Our armed forces still take an oath to support

and defend the Constitution and the United States against ALL Enemies ..

Foreign and Domestic!

 

 

> My husband is a viet nam vet tho he didn't not go to nam and

> volunteered.......??? he still served and served well in Europe. thus far

> the chain of generations of my daughters family goes unbroken when it comes

> to service to country.

>

 

One does not have to serve in combat to serve their country. General

Eisenhower earned 5 stars but he never served in combat. Still, he will go

down in history as having been one of the most successful commanders in

modern times.

 

 

> I believe we are honored to have you as a member of our board. I am

> humbled thats for sure!

>

 

Thank you ma'am .. not sure what to say except I thank you and I have always

enjoyed this group. :-)

 

 

> Evie

>

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/>