Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Howdy Mel, Gary, Anya .. other good folks .. >>> mel300967 wrote: >>> I just found a new web site with reviews of some of the older >>> aromatherapy books. That might help you decide what not to get. >>> It is: http://www.aromamedical.org >> >>I think that's Martin Watt's site... >> >>He doesn't pull any punches, for sure....<G>...! >> >>Gary W. Bourbonais > He throws so many punches folks avoid him nowadays. Since Martin is not on the group now to speak for himself .. I reckon I will do that to the degree that I think he deserves it. ;-) Punches he does throw .. that is a big fer'shur .. but few folks avoid him and his web site is one of the most informative ones around. Martin's knowledge is respected by those in the natural products industry in the UK and by many of us here in the U.S.A. and in other countries. (Deleted) > Poor guy. I agree .. but some folks like living under Social Democratic Regimes. ;-) > He's persona non gratis on all AT lists of any repute, like this one, because he just attacks people personally. ** *I don't think many folks consider Martin to be " persona no grata " , though he does have the ability to make some folks uneasy and make some others think he is a troll .. and I've told him that many times. But those who know him well know that he is not really a troll .. maybe a grouch but not a troll. ;-) Come to think on it .. I expect that some folks think I am a troll .. but I'm really a sweet feller .. homeless dawgs and kats seek me out. ;-) I believe that Martin is frustrated at a lot because of the great amount of ridiculous and unsafe crap that is pitched by many in the field of AT .. I know that I am .. I have been for a long time .. to the point of becoming disaffected. It is easy to give the impression that one is a sorehead when they have been butting their head against walls for many years. I have almost stopped writing on News Groups for that reason .. it is tiring. * > Many here felt his sting, and several left the group because of him. Having been on this News Group since it was a pup with around 100 + folks .. I have seen it grow to where it is now and I do recall a half dozen or so thin skinned folks who left because Martin zapped them over their attempts to put out foolish .. sometimes dangerous information that was either designed to sell products or to give the impression that the writer knew a lot when they really didn't know doodle squat. But best as I can recall those folks were not really adding anything to the group and in time they would have found another reason to leave .. like maybe going on to their next exciting adventure .. scrap booking or whatever. They generally knew not the level of expertise on the group .. and instead of sitting back and watching to learn what that level was, they decided to impress folks with what they knew and started passing along incorrect and unreferenced material from various How To books that were regurgitation's of previously published unreferenced materials from similar books. As for Martin's sting .. dang .. since I started on the News Groups back in 1995 I have seen .. and have personally been a part of .. knock down and drag outs where the folks who were doing the knocking are now good buddies ... to include many of those I butted heads with. I have always believed that contrary to how we would like for it to be .. these News Groups are not Sunday Tea Parties and the alternative complementary field is one where those who are serious about it are often very passionate about their beliefs ... and that's good cause there is little learning when everyone is walking on eggs and trying to avoid stepping on toes. There is also little learning by those who are thin skinned .. not just in AT .. but in life. Folks who are not aware of some of his writings should check them out at http://www.aromamedical.com/ .. especially his Articles Archive. If you wanna know who the Ol' Limey Troll is .. go here http://www.aromamedical.com/biography.html Do I believe everything in his archives? Generally I do but we will never have a meeting of minds on some things because he is too Green for me .. but I expect a good third of the readers here now are the same way. ;-) Could Martin be more kind when he disputes crap on the News Groups? Yep .. at least according to me and you and probably some other folks .. but that is not his personality type .. he has a completely different form of communication .. as do many folks. But in person his communication is different than it is in writing . .as is the case with many folks .. and those who have gone to him for assistance received all they needed and more. His heart is big and his bark is far worse than his bite. ;-) Martin has been my buddy since 1996 or so but we have had far more knock downs and drag outs than most folks could ever imagine .. some was on line on the groups and some was off line using language that might shock some of you retired sailors. But I continue to learn much from him and so can others if they are willing to believe that if you wanna see a Rainbow .. you gotta stand a little Rain. ;-) Lots of folks change their minds about people after getting to know them better .. we see that now in the polls regarding the recent U.S. elections ... same goes for getting to know Martin .. those who have met him at various AT Shindigs quickly develop a different opinion of the dude. There is a wise old Baba tale in Turkey that goes like .. " To really know someone you must either travel with them, drink with them or gamble with them. " As far as I know Martin is not a gambler but we have had a few beers together in Canada and in Turkey .. and have traveled a good bit together in Turkey. So I reckon I might know him better than most folks here. ;-)** <http://anyasgarden.com/> http://NaturalPerfumers.com <http://naturalperfumers.com/> http://twitter.com/anyasgarden Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-) Butch ... http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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