Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Howdy Tracey > Tracy Payne wroteL > > I have been searching for something " extra " to do this school year, to keep > my kids healthy and extra precautions against the swine flu. So far, oil of > oregano seems like a good choice, but is that something you can do on a > daily basis, and is it ok to rub it on the feet of small children? I have 5 > kids ages, 13 months, 3, 7, 9 and 18. > When I hear the term " Oil of Oregano " or oil of anything else .. what comes to mind is ex-doctor Cass Igram of North American Herb and Spice .. a company that last year was fined $2 million plus for false claims. When Igram wrote his book, " The Cure is in the Cupboard: How to Use Oregano for Better Health " , he kicked off a marketing campaign that used a lot of extrapolation and plain old unproven marketing hype that spread like a California wild fire. Now there are hundreds of companies pushing Oregano as the cure all for all ills. True it is that all Carvacrol rich Origanums have some mighty potent capabilities for kicking big bad bug butts .. however, it does not require ingestion or dermal application or placing it under the tongue, in the rectum or any other orifice. Sniffing or diffusion will do the job .. and that is what Aromatherapy is all about .. the intake of volatile molecules via the olfactory system. If we put an EO on our feet or our butt we are going to get some benefit when those molecules rise and we inhale them .. aside from that .. nothing good happens. Rubbing Oregano oil (even well diluted Oregano oil) on the skin is wasting the oil .. allowing the seller to sell more product .. and creating a great potential for sensitization .. a condition that can take us to the emergency room .. and can last for life. Using any oil frequently or over large areas of skin will do the same thing. The whole thing about absorption of an EO is (with a couple of dangerous exceptions) a bunch of crap .. the skin is the body's largest protective organ .. if it were not so we would spend a lot of time in the emergency room. The soles of the feet and palms of the hands are the thickest parts of that protective organ .. and its easy to determine why that is the case. Using EO on children as young as 13 months is a big NO NO .. but diffusing or allowing them to sniff the oil on a cloth or cotton ball is fine .. unless they have asthma or some other problem with getting their breath .. it can take one aback if they are not used to it. > Also, is there a brand of oil that is better than others? I've read > about diluting and pure and %'s.....and frankly, I'm a bit confused. LOL > There are no " brands " of any essential oil worth discussion .. there are two types and one of those types has two categories .. the types are pure and adulterated .. the pure type can be high in quality or mediocre in quality. Oregano EO is produced primarily in Turkey .. there are a few hundred companies selling the same oil from the same distillation facilities so it matters not what label they put on the bottle. See the information below .. a real brief course. ;-) Go into the list archive section and type in Oregano or Origanum or something of that nature and you will find hundreds of posts on the subject. Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/> - - - - - - - - - - - FACTS ON THE ORIGANUM'S - - - - - - - - - - All of the Origanum's except the Origanum dubium Linalool Type are Carvacrol rich and Carvacrol is the active therapeutic component most people seek. Origanum vulgare is the best seller though its really no better or worse than any other Origanum. Maybe people think its the best because there is one company making health claims and selling it as " Oil of Oregano " in a 10% Oregano/90% Olive Oil mixture for as much as $39.95 per 2/3 ounce bottle. People see mine as being less costly. With mine, one can mix their own and create a dozen bottles of the $39.95 product for less than half the price. And that company is NOT selling ONLY Origanum vulgare .. I was once their supplier .. had a contract for a metric ton per month till they shafted me and left me holding a lot of oil they did not purchase .. and I know their current supplier and they are producing as much Origanum dubium Carvacrol and Origanum onites as anything else. I will add that the company I speak of above was charged with false advertising and taken to court by the FTC. On 31 July 2008, they were fined 2.5 million dollars and had many, many other restrictions placed on them. I believe that they will probably have to close their company. Did that make me sad? ;-) Origanum onites has been the next best seller and that might be due to some things I've written on it and a portion of a lecture I gave at an Aromatherapy Conference in Toronto in September 1999. I presented some research conducted by five prominent professors in Turkey using Origanum onites in a project involving lung tumors in rats, using three different groups and three treatments, one being a normal cancer treatment. I presented the study and showed the audience colored micro slides of the lung tissues. The Origanum onites not only stopped the growth but also caused recession of the growths! The lung tissue was reverting to its previously normal pink and clear state!! I made it clear that this is not an indication that it will cure cancer in humans but it shows a great need for further research. Origanum dubium Carvacrol is the next best seller, possibly because it appears to have a milder odor than the others. Turkish folks generally prefer it and Origanum onites for home medication. Contrary to the marketing claims of many fad sales companies .. to include the one I mentioned above, Origanum onites and Origanum dubium Carvacrol have the exact same therapeutic properties as does Origanum vulgare. In fact, they are not all selling Origanum vulgare anyway .. the world supply is not sufficient to supply all those who make such claims. To take it a bit further .. I have supplied companies who make claims of selling ONLY Origanum vulgare .. but that is NOT all they purchased from me. Origanum dubium (Linalool type) is in its own class .. a very nice odor and dual therapeutic value. It's high in linalool, as is lavender, and high in carvacrol, as is oregano. It has properties of both oregano and lavender .. so much so that the common name in Turkey is Lavanta Kekik (Lavender Oregano.) It's endemic to Turkey - it is not found elsewhere and even in Turkey it's only found in a very small corner of the Southeast. When people get samples of it from us, they buy it. I normally use it for inhalation and it is great for diffusion - I love the odor. Unfortunately, it is out of stock .. there is none in the market this year. Any of the Carvacrol rich Origanum's will assist in kicking Big Bad Bug Butts (cold, flu, sinuses) and I personally believe they help me and mine but I make no claims that they can kill these critters. I do have results of a number of double blind studied and peer reviewed research projects that indicate they can do this .. but as far as I know they are not technically FDA approved studies. Likewise, I have never and will never make recommendations or even suggestions to others on ingestion of essential oils. When asked about this, I recommend buyers consult their doctor prior to considering this manner of usage. For diffusion any one of these oils will do a super fine job. All Origanum's have reported antiseptic, anti microbial, anti fungal, anti-spasmodic properties and they are believed to be capable of stimulating the immune system .. which can assist the body to overcome viral infections by putting the virus in a retrograde mode.. by stopping its reproduction so it goes back into defilade position. The above statement is based on in vivo and in vitro studies on the properties of Carvacrol and again, it would be a violation of government regulations to extrapolate information from those lab studies and attempt to apply the results to human beings .. accordingly, I make no such claims. So - one can choose based on the above descriptions of each oil. 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Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I would like more info on the absorption part of EO's please! Do you think it is wise to get products such as lotions etc. with healthy ingredients, or ok to get the reg. crappy ones that are mainstream...I thought that you absorb the " junk " from the crappy ingredient lotions and such.... - Butch Owen Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:39 PM Oregano for Kids/Babies? Howdy Tracey > Tracy Payne wroteL > > I have been searching for something " extra " to do this school year, to keep > my kids healthy and extra precautions against the swine flu. So far, oil of > oregano seems like a good choice, but is that something you can do on a > daily basis, and is it ok to rub it on the feet of small children? I have 5 > kids ages, 13 months, 3, 7, 9 and 18. > When I hear the term " Oil of Oregano " or oil of anything else .. what comes to mind is ex-doctor Cass Igram of North American Herb and Spice .. a company that last year was fined $2 million plus for false claims. When Igram wrote his book, " The Cure is in the Cupboard: How to Use Oregano for Better Health " , he kicked off a marketing campaign that used a lot of extrapolation and plain old unproven marketing hype that spread like a California wild fire. Now there are hundreds of companies pushing Oregano as the cure all for all ills. True it is that all Carvacrol rich Origanums have some mighty potent capabilities for kicking big bad bug butts .. however, it does not require ingestion or dermal application or placing it under the tongue, in the rectum or any other orifice. Sniffing or diffusion will do the job .. and that is what Aromatherapy is all about .. the intake of volatile molecules via the olfactory system. If we put an EO on our feet or our butt we are going to get some benefit when those molecules rise and we inhale them .. aside from that .. nothing good happens. Rubbing Oregano oil (even well diluted Oregano oil) on the skin is wasting the oil .. allowing the seller to sell more product .. and creating a great potential for sensitization .. a condition that can take us to the emergency room .. and can last for life. Using any oil frequently or over large areas of skin will do the same thing. The whole thing about absorption of an EO is (with a couple of dangerous exceptions) a bunch of crap .. the skin is the body's largest protective organ .. if it were not so we would spend a lot of time in the emergency room. The soles of the feet and palms of the hands are the thickest parts of that protective organ .. and its easy to determine why that is the case. Using EO on children as young as 13 months is a big NO NO .. but diffusing or allowing them to sniff the oil on a cloth or cotton ball is fine .. unless they have asthma or some other problem with getting their breath .. it can take one aback if they are not used to it. > Also, is there a brand of oil that is better than others? I've read > about diluting and pure and %'s.....and frankly, I'm a bit confused. LOL > There are no " brands " of any essential oil worth discussion .. there are two types and one of those types has two categories .. the types are pure and adulterated .. the pure type can be high in quality or mediocre in quality. Oregano EO is produced primarily in Turkey .. there are a few hundred companies selling the same oil from the same distillation facilities so it matters not what label they put on the bottle. See the information below .. a real brief course. ;-) Go into the list archive section and type in Oregano or Origanum or something of that nature and you will find hundreds of posts on the subject. Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/> - - - - - - - - - - - FACTS ON THE ORIGANUM'S - - - - - - - - - - All of the Origanum's except the Origanum dubium Linalool Type are Carvacrol rich and Carvacrol is the active therapeutic component most people seek. Origanum vulgare is the best seller though its really no better or worse than any other Origanum. Maybe people think its the best because there is one company making health claims and selling it as " Oil of Oregano " in a 10% Oregano/90% Olive Oil mixture for as much as $39.95 per 2/3 ounce bottle. People see mine as being less costly. With mine, one can mix their own and create a dozen bottles of the $39.95 product for less than half the price. And that company is NOT selling ONLY Origanum vulgare .. I was once their supplier .. had a contract for a metric ton per month till they shafted me and left me holding a lot of oil they did not purchase .. and I know their current supplier and they are producing as much Origanum dubium Carvacrol and Origanum onites as anything else. I will add that the company I speak of above was charged with false advertising and taken to court by the FTC. On 31 July 2008, they were fined 2.5 million dollars and had many, many other restrictions placed on them. I believe that they will probably have to close their company. Did that make me sad? ;-) Origanum onites has been the next best seller and that might be due to some things I've written on it and a portion of a lecture I gave at an Aromatherapy Conference in Toronto in September 1999. I presented some research conducted by five prominent professors in Turkey using Origanum onites in a project involving lung tumors in rats, using three different groups and three treatments, one being a normal cancer treatment. I presented the study and showed the audience colored micro slides of the lung tissues. The Origanum onites not only stopped the growth but also caused recession of the growths! The lung tissue was reverting to its previously normal pink and clear state!! I made it clear that this is not an indication that it will cure cancer in humans but it shows a great need for further research. Origanum dubium Carvacrol is the next best seller, possibly because it appears to have a milder odor than the others. Turkish folks generally prefer it and Origanum onites for home medication. Contrary to the marketing claims of many fad sales companies .. to include the one I mentioned above, Origanum onites and Origanum dubium Carvacrol have the exact same therapeutic properties as does Origanum vulgare. In fact, they are not all selling Origanum vulgare anyway .. the world supply is not sufficient to supply all those who make such claims. To take it a bit further .. I have supplied companies who make claims of selling ONLY Origanum vulgare .. but that is NOT all they purchased from me. Origanum dubium (Linalool type) is in its own class .. a very nice odor and dual therapeutic value. It's high in linalool, as is lavender, and high in carvacrol, as is oregano. It has properties of both oregano and lavender .. so much so that the common name in Turkey is Lavanta Kekik (Lavender Oregano.) It's endemic to Turkey - it is not found elsewhere and even in Turkey it's only found in a very small corner of the Southeast. When people get samples of it from us, they buy it. I normally use it for inhalation and it is great for diffusion - I love the odor. Unfortunately, it is out of stock .. there is none in the market this year. Any of the Carvacrol rich Origanum's will assist in kicking Big Bad Bug Butts (cold, flu, sinuses) and I personally believe they help me and mine but I make no claims that they can kill these critters. I do have results of a number of double blind studied and peer reviewed research projects that indicate they can do this .. but as far as I know they are not technically FDA approved studies. Likewise, I have never and will never make recommendations or even suggestions to others on ingestion of essential oils. When asked about this, I recommend buyers consult their doctor prior to considering this manner of usage. For diffusion any one of these oils will do a super fine job. All Origanum's have reported antiseptic, anti microbial, anti fungal, anti-spasmodic properties and they are believed to be capable of stimulating the immune system .. which can assist the body to overcome viral infections by putting the virus in a retrograde mode.. by stopping its reproduction so it goes back into defilade position. The above statement is based on in vivo and in vitro studies on the properties of Carvacrol and again, it would be a violation of government regulations to extrapolate information from those lab studies and attempt to apply the results to human beings .. accordingly, I make no such claims. So - one can choose based on the above descriptions of each oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Butch Owen wrote: > When I hear the term " Oil of Oregano " or oil of anything else .. what comes > to mind is ex-doctor Cass Igram of North American Herb and Spice .. a > company that last year was fined $2 million plus for false claims. When > Igram wrote his book, " The Cure is in the Cupboard: How to Use Oregano for > Better Health " , he kicked off a marketing campaign that used a lot of > extrapolation and plain old unproven marketing hype that spread like > a California wild fire. Now there are hundreds of companies pushing > Oregano as the cure all for all ills. > Hi Folks.... What Butch said..... I've known Butch for a passable long time, and he has special insight into the subject of Oregano...He used to bulk export the stuff from Turkey, to some names you'd recognize at the grocery and others...Also of course, the Turk Rose Otto....and other EO If you are somewhat a newbie to EO, I would advise setting up a folder and saving his messages for reference...He's written quite a bit, and maybe we can wheedle him to dig thru his archives at a later date and repost....<G>... I have such a folder, but am on a new system, and wasn't able to transfer the drive over...(long story), so I've started over again.... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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