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Hi everyone,

 

Not exactly new here, but I haven't been on this group for long. I have

at least one question and realize it or they, might be found in the

files. In any case. Here goes nothing.

 

I am on Warfarin as a blood thinner for clotting in my legs and lungs.

Lately, while it doesn't directly affect me badly. Even taking 1mg tabs.

I still get bleeding hemorrhoids. The doc is aware of this. BTW, the

effects of the Warfarin on my bleeding hemorrhoids, happens one to two

days after starting back up on the Warmarin. My doc has told me to stop

taking the Warfarin for a few days, if there is any blood loss down

there. However, it always comes back. Even if I've been off the Warfarin

for several days, to try and get the bleeding hemorrhoids to heal again.

This does seem to be getting worse.

 

I have had two Colonoscopies in the last two years. So that can also be

eliminated. It is also bright red in color. Which leaves out stomach

bleeding. In any case, I've also had two Endoscopies in the same two

year time span, to check on stomach problems.

 

He is also aware that I tried Oil of Cloves about 2 years ago. My BP/INR

levels were at the 1.0 level. The doc wants them between 2.0-3.0, for

best effect on me. Increasing the Oil of Cloves won't help, as I'm sure

most of you know. As it will supposedly never give you too much or too

little.

 

Anyway, these bleeding hemorrhoids are messing with my life. The docs

and maybe insurance company says " no operation " . I won't get rid of the

insurance or the doc.

 

So anyway, is there anything else out there, that might be substituted

for Oil of Cloves as an anti clotting alternative med?

 

Yes, I know that most, if not all of you, aren't medical doctors. So

just say what you would do in the above situation, should cover any

legalities. I am a consenting adult of 59+ years now and am very aware

of my medical problems. I just want more alternatives here.

 

Now, I will go to the files and search again, for something that might help.

 

Thanks all,

Bill

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Bill, in Tn wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Not exactly new here, but I haven't been on this group for long. I have

> at least one question and realize it or they, might be found in the

> files. In any case. Here goes nothing.

>

> I am on Warfarin as a blood thinner for clotting in my legs and lungs.

> Lately, while it doesn't directly affect me badly. Even taking 1mg tabs.

> I still get bleeding hemorrhoids.

>SNIP<

 

Hi Bill...

 

Warfarin is funny stuff...Developed at the U of Wis, to slow down

clotting for surgeries...

 

Also used as rat poison, because rats can't manufacture vitamin K, which

is the antidote...

 

I had a stroke in Dec of 07...it was a clot type...

 

The docs have put me on an aspirin regimen (81mg a day) to slow clots...

Happens to be the dosage of the orange flavor kiddie stuff....

Note: This is a lesser anti-clot effect then warfarin...

 

If yer gonna try something else, do *consult with yer doc*....Clots

floating around in yer system is serious stuff....

 

Also, ya can minimize the occurrence of the hemorrhoids by increasing

the amount of fiber in your diet...Makes it easier to do the job, so to

speak...

 

Care....

 

--

Gary W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite

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Good info. I know many eo's have salicylates which is not good . Here is where I

get nervous. I know that most people here have proper knowledge of essential

oils and the properties there of.

 

many people will mix up a blend of oils meant for pain reduction but never have

I seen anyone who works in a healthfood store, is in a MLM herbal/supplemental

area ever ask someone if they are on blood thinners and some people will use

very powerful essential oils for chronic pain and in doing so, those on blood

thinners are at risk because they use it more often.

 

So several sources are good to have on hand. You want to have several books by

known practioners and those books should have cautions listed with the complete

chemical breakdown of the oil . Wasn't it about two years ago that high school

girl died from using aspirin by mouth and also applying muscle warmers high in

salicylates and frankly she died from an over dose of what was meant to make her

able to run and compete . She simply was wanting to use preventative measures

which I can understand but she simply didn't know about the absorption of that

ingredient.

 

New Age Herbalist in not a bad book to have. They do have cautions and I dont

know if its been updated but if not, buy that and another good source of info

and if you can't afford those....go to alibris.com and you can buy good books ,

they are used but hey, its the knowledge in side of those books, I dont care if

someone highlited anything or wrote in the margin but I got some great books for

as low as 1.99. You can contact the seller and ask the shipping price.

 

I think I'll make a post on this.

 

Evie

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