Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 that is a really really good question...and I too will be interested to see the responses! - seashelll30 Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:59 PM Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Aromatherapy books will not contain herbal preparations, only recipes for use of essential oils. There are many good herb books, and one of the first ones I ever picked up that was full of recipes was Jeanne Rose's " Herbs & Things " . Rosemary Gladstar has put together some wonderful books about herbs and another good one would be Penelope Ode. I'm not sitting near my books at the moment... I would be seriously remiss to not mention that The Essential Herbal magazine and the book Under the Sun - which encompasses 5 years of issues - is crammed with recipes and how-tos. Tina Sams www.essentialherbal.com , " seashelll30 " <seashelll30 wrote: > > Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. > > I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Here are a few I use: 1.The School of Natural Healing by Dr. John Christopher (one of the best but pricey) 2. Natural Beauty at Home. By Janice Cox 3. Herbal Body Book by Jeanne Rose 4. Earthly Bodies & Heavenly Hair by Dina Falconi 5. The Herb Book by John Lust 6.Herbal Recipes for Vibrant Health by Rosemary Gladstar Hope these help. You can also go www.amazon.com and select books and type in herb books in the search area. Also Michael Moore has a website, google Michale Moore he has an online school as does Michael Tierra, but Moore gives recipes and tons of information. Dr. John Christopher has a website as well and a weekly newsletter you can sign up for. Lynn --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Cindy Atkins <lvdedogs wrote: Cindy Atkins <lvdedogs Re: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Friday, November 13, 2009, 10:46 PM  that is a really really good question...and I too will be interested to see the responses! - seashelll30 Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:59 PM [oils_herbs_ etc] Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 When you are in the realm of advanced herbalism, you are usually considered experienced enough to make your own recipes without them being provided for you. I have a huge library of herbal books (as well as other bodycare books as well) and they all have excellent information in them. One of my favorites is Dr. Christopher's School of Natural Healing reference guide. It has a wealth of information. There are many others also. But I find that if I know what kinds of properties I want my formula to be for, then I look up what things provide those qualities and what ones will enhance them and I just make my own from there. The knowledge of combining, what properties and etc comes from years of study and experience. Good Luck! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Cindy Atkins wrote: > that is a really really good question...and I too will be interested to see the responses! > > - > seashelll30 > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:59 PM > Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? > > > > Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. > > I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? > Hi Cindy, Folks..... For the Aromatherapy recipes you are looking for, first you would have to have comfrey EO and echinacea EO.... You probably should be looking to Herbal references for these things, not AT... Herbal and AT are somewhat related in that they deal with botanicals, but they are totally different.... You have to understand where you're to look first... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hi Gary, I think there is a great need for the marriage of herbalism and aromatherapy. Those of us who came to aromatherapy via the study of herbalism can see the necessity for both. Some of us even might refer to aromatherapy as a subset or expansion of herbal medicine. After all, we are talking about extracted plant constituents in either case, just different isolates or forms. I cannot imagine using only essential oils without the added benefits of other herbal compounds, especially for skincare. Also, internal use is far more effective using the herb or those extractions that carry over beneficial and ameliorating constituents not obtained by distillation. Not meaning to say essential oils are not powerful tools standing alone, but why settle for the frosting when you can have the cake as well? Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill On Behalf Of Gary W. Bourbonais Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:49 AM Re: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Hi Cindy, Folks..... For the Aromatherapy recipes you are looking for, first you would have to have comfrey EO and echinacea EO.... You probably should be looking to Herbal references for these things, not AT... Herbal and AT are somewhat related in that they deal with botanicals, but they are totally different.... You have to understand where you're to look first... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Marcia Elston wrote: > Hi Gary, > > I think there is a great need for the marriage of herbalism and > aromatherapy. Those of us who came to aromatherapy via the study of > herbalism can see the necessity for both. Some of us even might refer to > aromatherapy as a subset or expansion of herbal medicine. After all, we are > talking about extracted plant constituents in either case, just different > isolates or forms. I cannot imagine using only essential oils without the > added benefits of other herbal compounds, especially for skincare. Also, > internal use is far more effective using the herb or those extractions that > carry over beneficial and ameliorating constituents not obtained by > distillation. Not meaning to say essential oils are not powerful tools > standing alone, but why settle for the frosting when you can have the cake > as well? > Hi Marcia..... I agree.... But....as an old vet, do you remember when much of what AT was claimed to do was merely lifted from the herbal lore....? Despite the fact that EOs for one reason or another may not even contain the affective ingredient... You had idiots recommending certain EOs, which because of the extraction process of distillation were thousands the times more concentrated, in some cases in toxic components, for what the herb in a tea was recommended... AROMATHERAPY and the HERBAL are definitely related.....as is NATURAL PERFUMERY...But it's *important* to understand the differences... If you have an understanding of each, then you can combine them, possibly even to synergistic effect.... And while we're at it....let's not leave out the NATURAL INCENSE folks, whose art has been with us more or less since Homo Sap discovered fire... A newbie reading an herbal book...it says a tea of rue will help with nervous disorders....so I'll just throw a few drops of the EO into my tea....Why bother with all of these leaves and stuff...Oh Hell...more is always better...add a few more drops... My point was....if you are looking for a comfrey cream recipe, you're in the wrong place most likely, if it's an AT book....You want an Herbal tome... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Hi Gary, Points taken . . . While compatible to use in concert, herbalism and aromatherapy are not interchangeable as has been portrayed in many early aromtherapy books. And, both can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing and/or don't have good enough sense to be cautious. For herbal information, there have been several good suggestions. For those of you looking for solid herbal information - While Michael Moore has passed away this past February after long years of battling cancer, much of his work and his online course is still available at http://www.swsbm.com/homepage/ Howie Brounstein's courses and work is here http://www.botanicalstudies.net/ Another great site is http://www.herbological.com/ from Jonathan Treasure, who also has many podcasts available online. Textbooks are your best bet. David Hoffmann (whom I studied with) has written numerous herbal books (available through Amazon) and his therapeutic herbalism materia medica used to be available through the California Institute of Herbal Studies. Join the American Botanical Council. Their quarterly journal alone is worth the price of membership and features the latest scientific studies with herbs. Barbara Griggs' Green Pharmacy is a fascinating history and evolution of western herbal medicine, with a chapter that features on all the early pioneers in the U.S., including David Hoffmann, Rosemary Gladstar, Richard Shulze, Dr. John Christopher, Michael Tierra, my friend Jeanne Rose, among others. Maud Grieve's Modern Herbal is available online http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/mgmh.html, however, one has to remember how long ago it was published and recognize the evolution of information since then. The very best instruction for herbal medicine making is James Green's Herbal Medicine Makers Handbook available here http://www.planetherbs.com/store/7-books/1203464365-the-herbal-medicine-make rs-handbook-by-james-green-herbal.html. Hope this is helpful. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill On Behalf Of Gary W. Bourbonais Monday, November 16, 2009 7:40 AM Re: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Hi Marcia..... I agree.... But....as an old vet, do you remember when much of what AT was claimed to do was merely lifted from the herbal lore....? Despite the fact that EOs for one reason or another may not even contain the affective ingredient... You had idiots recommending certain EOs, which because of the extraction process of distillation were thousands the times more concentrated, in some cases in toxic components, for what the herb in a tea was recommended... AROMATHERAPY and the HERBAL are definitely related.....as is NATURAL PERFUMERY...But it's *important* to understand the differences... If you have an understanding of each, then you can combine them, possibly even to synergistic effect.... And while we're at it....let's not leave out the NATURAL INCENSE folks, whose art has been with us more or less since Homo Sap discovered fire... A newbie reading an herbal book...it says a tea of rue will help with nervous disorders....so I'll just throw a few drops of the EO into my tea....Why bother with all of these leaves and stuff...Oh Hell...more is always better...add a few more drops... My point was....if you are looking for a comfrey cream recipe, you're in the wrong place most likely, if it's an AT book....You want an Herbal tome... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 you are absolutely right...I guess I didn't even see that the original post said aromatherapy rather than herbal...I do understand the difference, but thanks for pointing it out because it was definitely something I should have noticed! Cindy - Gary W. Bourbonais Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:48 AM Re: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Cindy Atkins wrote: > that is a really really good question...and I too will be interested to see the responses! > > - > seashelll30 > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:59 PM > Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? > > > > Some of the aromatherapy books I have looked at have only simple, extra safe recipes on a beg. scale. > > I am frustrated because i want to get a comfrey cream recipe, an echanacia remedy, and specific ones for making diff. kinds of oils, the actual recipes, not just generalities. Does anyone know of any good books out there???? > Hi Cindy, Folks..... For the Aromatherapy recipes you are looking for, first you would have to have comfrey EO and echinacea EO.... You probably should be looking to Herbal references for these things, not AT... Herbal and AT are somewhat related in that they deal with botanicals, but they are totally different.... You have to understand where you're to look first... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 thank you so much...that is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for...not so much books of recipes, but good solid information...there is so much out there, I want to spend my " education " money wisely! Thanks again. Cindy - Marcia Elston Monday, November 16, 2009 10:49 AM RE: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Hi Gary, Points taken . . . While compatible to use in concert, herbalism and aromatherapy are not interchangeable as has been portrayed in many early aromtherapy books. And, both can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing and/or don't have good enough sense to be cautious. For herbal information, there have been several good suggestions. For those of you looking for solid herbal information - While Michael Moore has passed away this past February after long years of battling cancer, much of his work and his online course is still available at http://www.swsbm.com/homepage/ Howie Brounstein's courses and work is here http://www.botanicalstudies.net/ Another great site is http://www.herbological.com/ from Jonathan Treasure, who also has many podcasts available online. Textbooks are your best bet. David Hoffmann (whom I studied with) has written numerous herbal books (available through Amazon) and his therapeutic herbalism materia medica used to be available through the California Institute of Herbal Studies. Join the American Botanical Council. Their quarterly journal alone is worth the price of membership and features the latest scientific studies with herbs. Barbara Griggs' Green Pharmacy is a fascinating history and evolution of western herbal medicine, with a chapter that features on all the early pioneers in the U.S., including David Hoffmann, Rosemary Gladstar, Richard Shulze, Dr. John Christopher, Michael Tierra, my friend Jeanne Rose, among others. Maud Grieve's Modern Herbal is available online http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/mgmh.html, however, one has to remember how long ago it was published and recognize the evolution of information since then. The very best instruction for herbal medicine making is James Green's Herbal Medicine Makers Handbook available here http://www.planetherbs.com/store/7-books/1203464365-the-herbal-medicine-make rs-handbook-by-james-green-herbal.html. Hope this is helpful. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill On Behalf Of Gary W. Bourbonais Monday, November 16, 2009 7:40 AM Re: Books for Advanced Herbal Recipes?? Hi Marcia..... I agree.... But....as an old vet, do you remember when much of what AT was claimed to do was merely lifted from the herbal lore....? Despite the fact that EOs for one reason or another may not even contain the affective ingredient... You had idiots recommending certain EOs, which because of the extraction process of distillation were thousands the times more concentrated, in some cases in toxic components, for what the herb in a tea was recommended... AROMATHERAPY and the HERBAL are definitely related.....as is NATURAL PERFUMERY...But it's *important* to understand the differences... If you have an understanding of each, then you can combine them, possibly even to synergistic effect.... And while we're at it....let's not leave out the NATURAL INCENSE folks, whose art has been with us more or less since Homo Sap discovered fire... A newbie reading an herbal book...it says a tea of rue will help with nervous disorders....so I'll just throw a few drops of the EO into my tea....Why bother with all of these leaves and stuff...Oh Hell...more is always better...add a few more drops... My point was....if you are looking for a comfrey cream recipe, you're in the wrong place most likely, if it's an AT book....You want an Herbal tome... -- Gary W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique A.J.P. (GIA) http://www.facebook.com/Le.Hermite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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