Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Thanks Patty I thought the beeswax would have something to do with it. I'll fool around with the ratios and see If I can get something that is more long-lasting without being too waxy. Thanks very much! Nan > The thing to do is to increase your beeswax ratio. But add too much and your lipbalm will get an unappealing hard waxy consistency. As for honey, it will separate out from the oil-based ingredients because it is essentially a water-based substance. You could try using some sort of emulsifier, but then you have the issue of microbial growth because of the water content, I would think. Any others have experience with this? >  Patty > Ganache for Lips > http://www.ganacheforlips.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Have a question and a statement. How long is the lip balm lasting on their lips? What part of the country do you live in? Most OTC lip balms have in them some petroleum derivative to make them last longer. The handmade lip balm DOES soak in and moisturizes. Also, in this weather it will soak in more, or be licked off as we tend to breathe through our mouths more during the winter. Here is the basic oil / beeswax structure that I use. Hope these thought and ideas help. My customers just love mine. No, I will not tell you which oils I use out of the list. 20% beeswax 25 solid at room temp (coconut, palm, shea, lanolin, etc.) 15% brittle at room temp (palm kernel, cocoa butter. etc.) 40% liquid at room temp oil. scent from 1/4 - 1 tsp depending on preference. Anita M. Reeves A-ReMark-able Experience Hand made Soaps and Toiletries www.aremarkableexperience.com 281-723-4416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Hi there - is that ¼ to 1 teap of scent (flavor oil) per how many ounces of product? Also, do you use more or less of an essential oil? This is very helpful, by the way! I was also told to add a bit of mica for a sparkle and some lipstick for color. Thanks, Kat On Behalf Of Anita Reeves Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:59 PM Re: long lasting lip balm Have a question and a statement. How long is the lip balm lasting on their lips? What part of the country do you live in? Most OTC lip balms have in them some petroleum derivative to make them last longer. The handmade lip balm DOES soak in and moisturizes. Also, in this weather it will soak in more, or be licked off as we tend to breathe through our mouths more during the winter. Here is the basic oil / beeswax structure that I use. Hope these thought and ideas help. My customers just love mine. No, I will not tell you which oils I use out of the list. 20% beeswax 25 solid at room temp (coconut, palm, shea, lanolin, etc.) 15% brittle at room temp (palm kernel, cocoa butter. etc.) 40% liquid at room temp oil. scent from 1/4 - 1 tsp depending on preference. Anita M. Reeves A-ReMark-able Experience Hand made Soaps and Toiletries www.aremarkableexperience.com 281-723-4416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 thanks Patty. I live in the Northeast so I think your assumptions are true - it's cold, the stuff soaks in and we do breath through our mouths more - I actually like the stuff I made, but I'm going to fool with it to see if I can raise the lasting power of it a bit. Thanks for the percentages - that gives me a comparison at least. Nan , " Anita Reeves " <anita-r wrote: > > Have a question and a statement. How long is the lip balm lasting on their > lips? What part of the country do you live in? Most OTC lip balms have in > them some petroleum derivative to make them last longer. The handmade lip > balm DOES soak in and moisturizes. Also, in this weather it will soak in > more, or be licked off as we tend to breathe through our mouths more during > the winter. Here is the basic oil / beeswax structure that I use. Hope > these thought and ideas help. My customers just love mine. No, I will not > tell you which oils I use out of the list. > > 20% beeswax > > 25 solid at room temp (coconut, palm, shea, lanolin, etc.) > > 15% brittle at room temp (palm kernel, cocoa butter. etc.) > > 40% liquid at room temp oil. > > scent from 1/4 - 1 tsp depending on preference. > > > > > > Anita M. Reeves > > A-ReMark-able Experience > > Hand made Soaps and Toiletries > > www.aremarkableexperience.com > > 281-723-4416 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I used to make the stuff. I agree with the honey part, it's not needed. and forget the lipstick. Defeats the purpose of " natural " AND apparently is VERY bad for folk. Also, as previously stated, you need to increase your bees wax. Play with it, you'll find the consistancy you like. Be very careful of the eo's you use. Some cause skin irritations and others (like a lot of the citrus') can actually cause burns when exposed to sunlight. K -- Kathleen Petrides Bead Hussy http://www.BeadHussy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I like to add a bit of Caster Oil to my lip balms Sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hi Kat, I use flavor oil/essential oil to suit--I add, try, add, try (it helps to put a plate in the freezer and then drip a drop or two of your mix when you want to check consistency and flavoring) until I'm happy. Mica--I do add a touch with my natural-colored tubes, but only enough so the customer can see what's in the tube and when to get more. If you're looking for color on the lips it'll take a lot and most don't want color in a balm. And definitely drop the lipstick--you don't know what's in it and many contain products that people looking for a natural balm won't want. When you list your ingredients on the label, listing " lipstick " isn't adequate to explain what's in your container and may put off more people than it draws. Even if you're not selling products now there may come a day you'll want to and a tried-and-true formulation will help you more than having to alter something you've been making already. You can probably make a colored gloss as a separate product, again without the lipstick, by altering your lip balm base with a little more oil (castor is a good choice for this), enough mica to at least give a glimmer, more if you want color too, or even go to a more liquid gloss and package in roller ball containers. But I wouldn't try to put shine or color in a lip balm--people want moisturizing and healing from the balm and will put a gloss or lipstick over it if they want those attributes. In fact I always put a layer of lip balm under my lipstick unless I'm using the never-come-off variety--it keeps my lipstick from feathering into the little beginnings of wrinkles around my lips. HTH, Serra On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Kirschner, Kathi [TIBUS] <KKirsch1 wrote: > > > > Hi there - is that ¼ to 1 teap of scent (flavor oil) per how many ounces of product? > > Also, do you use more or less of an essential oil? > > This is very helpful, by the way! > > I was also told to add a bit of mica for a sparkle and some lipstick for color. > > Thanks, > > Kat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hi Nan I can't take credit for this helpful information. Looks like it was posted by Anita. Cheers!  Patty Ganache for Lips http://www.ganacheforlips.com Nan <harpandheart Thu, January 21, 2010 11:19:23 AM Re: long lasting lip balm  thanks Patty. I live in the Northeast so I think your assumptions are true - it's cold, the stuff soaks in and we do breath through our mouths more - I actually like the stuff I made, but I'm going to fool with it to see if I can raise the lasting power of it a bit. Thanks for the percentages - that gives me a comparison at least. Nan , " Anita Reeves " <anita-r > wrote: > > Have a question and a statement. How long is the lip balm lasting on their > lips? What part of the country do you live in? Most OTC lip balms have in > them some petroleum derivative to make them last longer. The handmade lip > balm DOES soak in and moisturizes. Also, in this weather it will soak in > more, or be licked off as we tend to breathe through our mouths more during > the winter. Here is the basic oil / beeswax structure that I use. Hope > these thought and ideas help. My customers just love mine. No, I will not > tell you which oils I use out of the list. > > 20% beeswax > > 25 solid at room temp (coconut, palm, shea, lanolin, etc.) > > 15% brittle at room temp (palm kernel, cocoa butter. etc.) > > 40% liquid at room temp oil. > > scent from 1/4 - 1 tsp depending on preference. > > > > > > Anita M. Reeves > > A-ReMark-able Experience > > Hand made Soaps and Toiletries > > www.aremarkableexpe rience.com > > 281-723-4416 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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