OT: Health Care Bill - New Thoughts

[Guest guest]

Butch wrote:

 

" There is a logical limit to how much any government

can provide and that limit is normally determined by

how much the government can get from the citizens. "

 

Agreed to that. I am entirely in favor of an honest,

open discussion on the culture of entitlement. Could

we please stop promising everything to everybody, and

accept imperfection?

 

ANY system can be abused. A society needs both people

who care for the collective picture, AND people who

stand up for the rugged individual, just like a car needs

both a gas pedal and a brake.

 

Could we please accept the fact that sometimes we DIE?

Could we perhaps do that with more palliative care, including

the legal use of substances presently banned?

 

So much insane expense comes at the very end of life, or

is occurred trying to keep babies alive who Nature might

have let go. Yesterday's tragic miscarriage is today's

extreme preemie. Where do we draw a line?

When we say we " should not play God " , is keeping people

who are trying to let go, or changing their mind about

doing Earth in the first place, not also playing God?

I realize this is a huge can of worms.

 

The political discourse, both here and in the USA, suffers

from several ailments. Part of it is extreme partisanship

that poisons everything. Why do we find it so hard to

say to an opponent: " You have a point " ?

Granting the other side a point is not the same as buying

the entire position.

Why does everything have to be " either/or " , instead of

and/and?

 

Anyway......thanks to the moderators for allowing this

discussion. There are few places where people of opposing

views have a chance to exchange ideas in a spirit of mutual

respect.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

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[Guest guest]

Ieneke wrote: Could we please accept the fact that sometimes we DIE?

 

Thanks for that, Ieneke. You made me chuckle. All those TV commercials for drugs

(and food with no calories or trans fats or whatever) seem to imply that people

who use the advertised drug/frankenfood never, ever die. Heck, they make it

sound like everyone who is dead only died because they were too stupid to

consume these wonder products, poor deluded souls.

 

It's insidious. How did they ever legalize drug advertising anyway? Oh right,

we have to have a free market. I'm really likin' how that worked in banking and

lending.

 

Anyhoo, thanks for the chuckle in the midst of this discussion on this new

health care legislation. I absolutely refuse to panic until I see exactly what,

if anything, it will force upon me.

 

best regards,

Rachel in AZ