OT: What Are The Rules?

April 3, 2010

Hi Kathleen, I think the word " socialized " upsets some people because

" socialized " means more government involvement and less individual

responsibility-two things this country does NOT need more of. Lack of

healthcare reform is not due to the commie fearing, flag waving, patriotic dumb

asses. I'm a flag waving patriot (although not a commie fearing dumb ass) and I

believe in reform for the healthcare industry but real reform would have come

from a true overhaul of the many broken parts in the current system, including

tort reform. We are not yet getting that here because the politicians have

their own agendas at hand, and that is never what creates true reform. I'd bet

that the other countries being referred to that have socialized medicine that

works well is NOT similar to what our government is trying to pass off as

healthcare reform on us and as such, the people here have the right to be

concerned about our " socialized medicine " because it will not create true,

necessary reform of the industry nor will it bring the real universal healthcare

this country has been trying to create for years. People need to understand

that just because some, individuals and those in government, are against THIS

bill does not mean they are against true reform. This just ain't it. Now I'll

wait for my hand slapping. Susan

, Kathleen Petrides <Beadhussy wrote:

>

> I would like a pat on the back for having stayed out of this discussion for

> as long as I have. " Good Kathleen, what a good girl you are. "

>

> I read that post. I actually thought it had a valid point. At this point, no

> one knows what we're buying. Good, bad or indifferent. Yeah, it was down a

> party line, but it did have a point. Give the girl a break.

>

> Like Butch, I've lived in a few places. Not as many, but a few that weren't

> in the Good Ole US of A. I've been in two countries that had socialized

> medicine and I've been to quacks in both. I've also used Military hospitals.

> In both cases I've seen the bad and the good. And there is plenty of both,

> believe you me.

>

> I've had 3 babies in England and 1 in this country. I'll take the British

> health system over the broken American system anytime.

>

> oh, here, scare time. Socialized Medicine. This is going to give some folk a

> heart attack, stroke, break out into a sweat and grab for Old Glory and

> that's part of MY fun. Here we go:

>

> Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized

> Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized Socialized.

>

> How many of you still standing? It drives me around the twist, that the word

> " socialized " is used and Americans go NUTS, start freaking out and screaming

> that this is America and not Russia. Not all Americans, granted. But enough.

> More than enough.

>

> The US will never have socialized health care as such. The rate we're going

> because of all the commie fearing, flag waving, patriotic dumb asses, the

> health care system will never get the proper over haul that it needs. And

> this is leaving out the self interest groups.

>

> For those that are terrified of the Socialized Health care system, I sure

> hope that they never use Medicaid, Medicare or go into the military and use

> the medical offered there.

>

> Sigh. Whats the point? All I did was vent my spleen and build up a new head

> of steam. Shutting up now and waiting to get my hand slapped.

>

> K

>

> --

> Kathleen Petrides

> Bead Hussy

> http://www.BeadHussy.com

>

April 3, 2010

Hey Susan

I get that we don't want socialized medicine. What I don't get is that when

the word is even mentioned, there are a lot of people who just start foaming

at the mouth and don't even listen to what is being said.

No one is advocating socialized medicine, just talking about what has worked

and not worked in other countries, but the " dumb asses " can't hear past the

one word. I agree, there are too many agendas out there for real reform to

take place. It's a sin and a shame that this country doesn't have some

system of health care that is accessible to everyone, especially those that

need it most. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned by everyone, the

politicians have no real desire to even try to fix things because it would

cost them their job.

Health care while desperately needed, is needed by the wrong people. People

with little or no money, people with no influence, the average joe on the

street. If, however, the shoe was on the other foot and it was people in

power or people with money who needed it done, it would QUICKLY become an

issue that would force real change. Until then, all we the people are going

to get is something that we don't want, will not do much good for we the

people and will not affect the bottom dollar of those who don't care about

the little we the people, at least not until election time, by which time

they hope this issue will have been swept under the carpet by something

" more important " .

So, when all is said and done and signed, sealed and delivered, it will be

too little, too late and too expensive for the very little it does.

K

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:15 PM, SusanP <ripple95 wrote:

>

> Hi Kathleen, I think the word " socialized " upsets some people because

> " socialized " means more government involvement and less individual

> responsibility-two things this country does NOT need more of. Lack of

> healthcare reform is not due to the commie fearing, flag waving, patriotic

> dumb asses. I'm a flag waving patriot (although not a commie fearing dumb

> ass) and I believe in reform for the healthcare industry but real reform

> would have come from a true overhaul of the many broken parts in the current

> system, including tort reform. We are not yet getting that here because the

> politicians have their own agendas at hand, and that is never what creates

> true reform. I'd bet that the other countries being referred to that have

> socialized medicine that works well is NOT similar to what our government is

> trying to pass off as healthcare reform on us and as such, the people here

> have the right to be concerned about our " socialized medicine " because it

> will not create true, necessary reform of the industry nor will it bring the

> real universal healthcare this country has been trying to create for years.

> People need to understand that just because some, individuals and those in

> government, are against THIS bill does not mean they are against true

> reform. This just ain't it. Now I'll wait for my hand slapping. Susan

>

> <%40>,

> Kathleen Petrides <Beadhussy wrote:

> >

> > I would like a pat on the back for having stayed out of this discussion

> for

> > as long as I have. " Good Kathleen, what a good girl you are. "

> >

> > I read that post. I actually thought it had a valid point. At this point,

> no

> > one knows what we're buying. Good, bad or indifferent. Yeah, it was down

> a

> > party line, but it did have a point. Give the girl a break.

> >

> > Like Butch, I've lived in a few places. Not as many, but a few that

> weren't

> > in the Good Ole US of A. I've been in two countries that had socialized

> > medicine and I've been to quacks in both. I've also used Military

> hospitals.

> > In both cases I've seen the bad and the good. And there is plenty of

> both,

> > believe you me.

> >

> > I've had 3 babies in England and 1 in this country. I'll take the British

> > health system over the broken American system anytime.

> >

> > oh, here, scare time. Socialized Medicine. This is going to give some

> folk a

> > heart attack, stroke, break out into a sweat and grab for Old Glory and

> > that's part of MY fun. Here we go:

> >