Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hi all, bu zhong yi qi tang, modified looks like the perfect formula for a new mom with a cystocele (prolapsed bladder) who also lost quite a bit of blood. would this rx be too upbearing and stimulating for the nursing newborn? how soon after delivery would mom be able to start taking these herbs? thanks, cynthia splies, lac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi there, I think a modified bu zhong yi qi tang would be fine, and would be OK for the newborn too. I dont think the tonic herbs are " stimulating " necessarily to the baby. In fact, increasing qi and blood increases the milk supply, and a well nourished baby is a happy baby. I have found that with some tonic herbs, they actually help with getting a good rest, due to their nourishing and restorative properties, rather than being too stimulating. I would also consider Gui Pi Tang if this is still a concern for you, and in the case of a mother who has lost a lot of blood is a great formula to use. Or even some dietary therapy such as congee with some herbs along the lines of dang gui bu xue tang, if you wanted something milder. For prolapsed bladders after childbirth, there are exercises that can be very useful. Perhaps the new mum could speak to a physiotherapist or similar for some advice on exercises that could be used in conjunction with herbs? Regards, Lea. , " CYNTHIA SPLIES " <splies wrote: > > Hi all, > > bu zhong yi qi tang, modified looks like the perfect formula for a new mom > with a cystocele (prolapsed bladder) who also lost quite a bit of blood. would > this rx be too upbearing and stimulating for the nursing newborn? how soon > after delivery would mom be able to start taking these herbs? > thanks, > > cynthia splies, lac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I don't know that the assumption that bu zhong yi qi tang will effect the baby needs to be made. From my extremely unofficial survey of herbs that effect nursing mothers, none of the five that I located are found in bu zhong yi qi tang. They are: bo he (unknown reason) da huang ( " may " enter milk) dan dou chi (inhibits lactation) mai ya (inhibits lactation) mang xiao (enters milk) Are there any others? -al. On 7/15/06, CYNTHIA SPLIES <splies wrote: > > Hi all, > > bu zhong yi qi tang, modified looks like the perfect formula for a new mom > > with a cystocele (prolapsed bladder) who also lost quite a bit of blood. > would > this rx be too upbearing and stimulating for the nursing newborn? how soon > > after delivery would mom be able to start taking these herbs? > thanks, > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > From my extremely unofficial survey of herbs that effect nursing mothers, > Are there any others? Fan xie ye (senna) is also contraindicated in patients that are breastfeeding. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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