Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I have no idea how valid this study actually is, but it looks like robots can recognize the elegance of TCM formulae. Check this out: J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Jun 29; [Epub ahead of print] Usefulness of traditionally defined herbal properties for distinguishing prescriptions of traditional Chinese medicine from non-prescription recipes. Ung CY, Li H, Kong CY, Wang JF, Chen YZ. Bioinformatics and Drug Design Group, Department of Pharmacy, National University of Singapore, Blk SOC1, Level 7, 3 Science Drive 2, Singapore 117543, Singapore; Bioinformatics and Drug Design Group, Department of Computational Science, National University of Singapore, Blk SOC1, Level 7, 3 Science Drive 2, Singapore 117543, Singapore; Department of Biochemistry, The Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, National University of Singapore, Blk MD7, #02-03, 8 Medical Drive, Singapore 117597, Singapore. Traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) has been widely practiced and is considered as an attractive to conventional medicine. Multi-herb recipes have been routinely used in TCM. These have been formulated by using TCM-defined herbal properties (TCM-HPs), the scientific basis of which is unclear. The usefulness of TCM-HPs was evaluated by analyzing the distribution pattern of TCM-HPs of the constituent herbs in 1161 classical TCM prescriptions, which shows patterns of multi-herb correlation. Two artificial intelligence (AI) methods were used to examine whether TCM-HPs are capable of distinguishing TCM prescriptions from non-TCM recipes. Two AI systems were trained and tested by using 1161 TCM prescriptions, 11,202 non-TCM recipes, and two separate evaluation methods. These systems correctly classified 83.1-97.3% of the TCM prescriptions, 90.8-92.3% of the non-TCM recipes. These results suggest that TCM-HPs are capable of separating TCM prescriptions from non-TCM recipes, which are useful for formulating TCM prescriptions and consistent with the expected correlation between TCM-HPs and the physicochemical properties of herbal ingredients responsible for producing the collective pharmacological and other effects of specific TCM prescriptions. PMID: 16884871 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Just as importantly, what is the practical use of this technology that can accurately distinguish between classic formulas and random lists of herbs? Is this research about artificial intelligence or TCM? -al. On 8/5/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > > I have no idea how valid this study actually is, but it looks like > robots > can recognize the elegance of TCM formulae. > > Check this out: > > J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Jun 29; [Epub ahead of print] > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 This is the application of a supervised learning algorithm to a new domain (TCM formulas) for the sake of seeing how " learnable " the TCM formula domain is ( " learnability " here has nothing to do with human learning). These results would be publishable in the U.S. as an original application of known AI techniques, but it would not (as described) qualify as a contribution to AI since this type of learning algorithm has been around for about 15 years now. As far as practical applications go, an herbal pharmacy that fills prescriptions for a large number of herbalists could conceivably use the program to " red flag " prescriptions that were not recognized as feasible TCM-formulas in order to bring the prescription to the attention of an experienced herbalist. That person could then either override the program (because they know the prescription is fine as it stands) or contact the author of the prescription to make sure there are no errors in the prescription. So such a thing could conceivably add some quality control to the process of filling herbal prescriptions - although I don't know if prescription errors are enough of an ongoing concern to justify the extra effort of typing all incoming prescriptions into a computer program. With additional work, a program along these lines might also be useful as an automated tutor for students who are getting started writing their own formulas. But students need useful feedback for a formula that does not look sound: it's not enough to just give it a thumbs up/down. And this system, as it stands, would not be able to say anything useful/instructional about a suspect formula. So it's an interesting little result which could be pushed in more useful directions if someone wanted to keep working on it. Useful things often start out as baby steps in a vague direction. Wendy Lehnert (Professor) Department of Computer Science University of Massachusetts - Amherst > > Just as importantly, what is the practical use of this technology that can > accurately distinguish between classic formulas and random lists of herbs? > Is this research about artificial intelligence or TCM? > > -al. > > On 8/5/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > > > > I have no idea how valid this study actually is, but it looks like > > robots > > can recognize the elegance of TCM formulae. > > > > Check this out: > > > > J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Jun 29; [Epub ahead of print] > > > > -- > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 This is the application of a supervised learning algorithm to a new domain (TCM formulas) for the sake of seeing how " learnable " the TCM formula domain is ( " learnability " here has nothing to do with human learning). These results would be publishable in the U.S. as an original application of known AI techniques, but it would not (as described) qualify as a contribution to AI since this type of learning algorithm has been around for about 15 years now. As far as practical applications go, an herbal pharmacy that fills prescriptions for a large number of herbalists could conceivably use the program to " red flag " prescriptions that were not recognized as feasible TCM-formulas in order to bring the prescription to the attention of an experienced herbalist. That person could then either override the program (because they know the prescription is fine as it stands) or contact the author of the prescription to make sure there are no errors in the prescription. So such a thing could conceivably add some quality control to the process of filling herbal prescriptions - although I don't know if prescription errors are enough of an ongoing concern to justify the extra effort of typing all incoming prescriptions into a computer program. With additional work, a program along these lines might also be useful as an automated tutor for students who are getting started writing their own formulas. But students need useful feedback for a formula that does not look sound: it's not enough to just give it a thumbs up/down. And this system, as it stands, would not be able to say anything useful/instructional about a suspect formula. So it's an interesting little result which could be pushed in more useful directions if someone wanted to keep working on it. Useful things often start out as baby steps in a vague direction. Wendy Lehnert (Professor) Department of Computer Science University of Massachusetts - Amherst > > Just as importantly, what is the practical use of this technology that can > accurately distinguish between classic formulas and random lists of herbs? > Is this research about artificial intelligence or TCM? > > -al. > > On 8/5/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > > > > I have no idea how valid this study actually is, but it looks like > > robots > > can recognize the elegance of TCM formulae. > > > > Check this out: > > > > J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Jun 29; [Epub ahead of print] > > > > -- > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 , " Al Stone " <al wrote: > > Just as importantly, what is the practical use of this technology that can > accurately distinguish between classic formulas and random lists of herbs? > Is this research about artificial intelligence or TCM? > > -al. > I don't believe it's meant to be practical. I am guessing that they designed this study to illustrate that there is a certain harmony in (classical?)TCM prescriptions that robots are able to detect. And that that harmony is absent from non-TCM prescriptions. Without access to the whole study, all this is mere guessing I'm afraid. Regards, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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