Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear members I have just seeing a new patient with Chrohn's disease. The details are below. My questions are: the 1st herbs caused the stools to go green/black. Is this the blood stasis coming out, is this a positive sign, or was I was worsening the condition. There is quite obviously a mass in lower R quadrant and I was wondering about da huang mu dan pi tang as suggested by flaws in his book. Has anyone ever tried the purge approach in treating Chrohn's, I am mindfull if wrong D/D da huang mu dan tang might cause more severe diarrhea. How many packets/days would people suggest to purge because I am concerned in damaging zheng qi. Any thoughts welcome. Heiko Lade (NZ) Female age 22 15/08/06 Chrohn's disease diagnosed 4 years ago aged 18, sudden appearance literally over night, then diarrhea up to 10 times per day, pus (white) in stools, pain, bleeding Initial Tx Steroids, anti inflammatory, anti suppressant drugs, antibiotics If stop drugs, symptoms return within 5 weeks, tried about 2 years ago When Chrohn's plays up --> tired Lost 7 kg in last 6 weeks Medications: current- salazapyrin, metronidazole, azumun Self Tx: vit C, mineral Ca etc, rice bran oil, evening primrose, primadophillus, fish oil Family: grandmum- diverticulitis, grandfather- cancer Childhood- mumps, German measles, age 10 glandular fever Operations- toncills age 2 ( lots of antibiotics Tx) , r knee cartilage 10 years Emotions: bit irritable sx with cycle 6 excesses: dislike cold Past stress: aged 15 moved Gisborne-->Christchurch, dislike cold, lost friends, (Gisborne hot climate, Christchurch Cold) Other signs: nocturia 1x night, light sleeper, sx 1 x month pain on ribs breast line which lasts for 10 minutes -->lost of breath, hard to breath, has been for a few years Headache- if does not eat, Diet: stopped wheat, sugar, alcohol, pork. General past history of diet and as teenager leading up to Chrohn's was OK , bit of junk food sx Menstrual: pill aged 16-22, (pre aged 16 cycle last 5-7 days mild to heavy,) now sx mild clotting, sx beginning at cycle, PMT, cramps , irritable Palpation: Lower right quadrant- especially kidney channel area, slight lump mass feeling Pulse: slippery, lung full, Spleen thin, Tongue: Blood stasis underneath-veins, greasy yellow at back D/D: damp heat on top of cold damp/blood stasis There was a history of lots of antibiotics age 0-2 which I suspected caused a cold damp scenario. Herbs- huang bai 9, cang zhu 3, ban xia6, ge gen 9, zhu ru 9, chai hu3, yu jin 9, bai shao9, gui zhi9, ji xue teng9, hong hua3, zhe bei mu3, gan cao 3, fu ling 9 2 packets (dosages in grams) [i added some qi regulators even though not a lot of qi stasis signs, and added bai shao and gui zhi to harmonise ying and wei] Tx 2: had a bad headache for 1 day during course of drinking herbs, last few days bleeding on anus but not dripping as in past, stool colour dark green to black (not had this before) P: seemed rough now not slippery, flooding T: veins underneath still blood stasis Ze xie 9, huang bai 6, jin yin hua9, ji xue teng 12, mu dan pi 9, hong hua 6, yi yi ren 15, huai hua 9, fu ling 15, cang zhu 6, hua shi 9, ge gen 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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