4. 3b. is ting li zi ever used for invisible phlegm

[Guest guest]

Yehuda,Traditional TCM treatment of Parkinson's (pattern)

does not work. I see Parkinson's as a yangming /shaoyang

disorder, hence my fondness for da huang. Depending upon the

ebb and flow of at the time da huang can be used with mang

xaio or fu zi, or with vinegar. Can be applied topically

(Kidney 1) as well.

 

Renee Caisse used Indian Rhubarb in her cancer formula

(essiac tea). She twice cooked it, don't know why she did,

but I don't know why Bensky says not to cook da huang for

over five minutes either. Rhubarb in essiac tea is a rather

a strong percentage and twice cook does not present as such

a strong purgative. note: overall the formula is

comparatively weak being one cup of herbs to two gallons of

water yet having remarkable affects. A nice example of a

weak formula treating a strong pathogen (tumor)

 

I don't think larger dose, just that da huang is the

principle herb.

 

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Santa Cruz, CA.

 

 

 

 

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4. Re: 3b. Re: is ting li zi ever used for " invisible

phlegm "

Posted by: " yehuda frischman "

 

Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:06 am (PDT)

 

Thanks, Ed,

 

Good to hear from you, and I tend to agree. Let's talk a

bit about your ideas with Da Huang. Please explain the

advantage of taking a larger dose, albeit treated of DH, as

opposed to the raw powder she is now taking?

 

Regards from So Cal,

 

Yehuda

[Guest guest]

Ed,

 

Remember, though Chana displays symptoms which are Parkinsonian, or

Parkinson's like, her etiology and pathogenesis are very different. Her

movement disorder rather than being an essential aspect of the Western

Diagnosis, is incidental. The pattern is a series of events, one causing the

next to fall like dominoes: Extreme worry and tension causes muscle tightening

and (originally) insomnia, muscle tightening and insomnia continues unabated

because of a hypertonicity of the sympathetic nervous system, eventually this

builds up to a seizure, the seizure, releases some of the tension, but the

resulting pain, causes new tension, this in turn used to cause more insomnia

and fatigue, which in turn caused the Parkinson like symptoms. And so on each

month, round and round. Explain how this would fit into your understanding.

 

Respectfully,

 

Yehuda

 

 

Ed Kasper LAc <eddy wrote:

Yehuda,Traditional TCM treatment of Parkinson's (pattern)

does not work. I see Parkinson's as a yangming /shaoyang

disorder, hence my fondness for da huang. Depending upon the

ebb and flow of at the time da huang can be used with mang

xaio or fu zi, or with vinegar. Can be applied topically

(Kidney 1) as well.

 

Renee Caisse used Indian Rhubarb in her cancer formula

(essiac tea). She twice cooked it, don't know why she did,

but I don't know why Bensky says not to cook da huang for

over five minutes either. Rhubarb in essiac tea is a rather

a strong percentage and twice cook does not present as such

a strong purgative. note: overall the formula is

comparatively weak being one cup of herbs to two gallons of

water yet having remarkable affects. A nice example of a

weak formula treating a strong pathogen (tumor)

 

I don't think larger dose, just that da huang is the

principle herb.

 

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Santa Cruz, CA.

 

.........................original message ...................

4. Re: 3b. Re: is ting li zi ever used for " invisible

phlegm "

Posted by: " yehuda frischman "

 

Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:06 am (PDT)

 

Thanks, Ed,

 

Good to hear from you, and I tend to agree. Let's talk a

bit about your ideas with Da Huang. Please explain the

advantage of taking a larger dose, albeit treated of DH, as

opposed to the raw powder she is now taking?

 

Regards from So Cal,

 

Yehuda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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