Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Has anyone used herbs externally for peripheral neuropathy (diabetic or chemo-induced)? I am thinking of trying a foot-soak with a few patients that I have. Some of the specific questions that I have regarding this are: What are the dosages of herbs relative to a typical decoction for internal use? How much water is used? Cooking time - any different than typical? How long should patient soak their feet? Once or twice a day? Is there a reference out there with more info along these lines? Thanks in advance for any input. -Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Adam, I have had good results with Hypericum (St. John's Wort) as an oil or a liniment for peripheral neuropathy, mostly due to diabetes. I also use Scutellaria laterifolia (American Skullcap) as a tincture internally. There are a number of other medicinals that I might consider depending on the pattern. However, in all cases I would consider warm Castor oil packs, especially on the most severely effected areas. Sometimes I simply combine the Hypericum with the Castor oil and have the patient apply it 1-3 time a day depending on their life patterns and willingness to deal with oil on their legs. The best time to apply the oils is at night. Then is can be wrapped and a long sock can be wore to avoid oil on the bed sheets. This gives a prolonged application and is relatively easy without the PITA of dealing with it during the day. Good luck, Thomas Faculty Department of Complementary and Alternative Medicine John Burns School of Medicine University of Hawai'i Manoa Honolulu, HI www.sourcepointherbs.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I would be VERY surprised if external herbs have an effect on peripheral neuropathy. If you do try it, just make sure that the decoction isn't too hot. It is very easy to burn people who have peripheral neuropathy. ............................................. Bill Schoenbart, L.Ac. P.O. Box 8099 Santa Cruz, CA 95061 office phone: 831-335-3165 email: plantmed ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Very good advice - these patients easily burn themselves. Internal herbs work very well and acupuncture is also very helpful. We used herbal soaks with lots of added Huang Qi for very chronic patients with excellent results.. but in my practice, I don't use many raw herbs, so just internal and acupuncture - and seems to be just fine. Geoff , " Bill Schoenbart " <plantmed2 wrote: > > I would be VERY surprised if external herbs have an effect on peripheral > neuropathy. If you do try it, just make sure that the decoction isn't too > hot. It is very easy to burn people who have peripheral neuropathy. > ............................................ > Bill Schoenbart, L.Ac. > P.O. Box 8099 > Santa Cruz, CA 95061 > > office phone: 831-335-3165 > email: plantmed > ............................................ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Never have used it myself by have heard anecdotes of geranium essential oil being effective for treatment of peripheral neuropathy. Good luck,. Joe Curcio, L.Ac. www.acupoint.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Hi Joe, Bill, & All, > Never have used it myself by have heard anecdotes of geranium > essential oil being effective for treatment of peripheral neuropathy. > Good luck,. Joe Curcio, L.Ac. See article by Bob Flaws (Diabetic Peripheral Neuropathy). The formula (oral) used was Zhi Gui Hua Yu Tang which included Shuizhi, Chuanxiong, Huainiuxi), and Jianghuang, 10g each, Danggui 15g, and stir-fried Yanhusuo 20g. If there was LU-ST Exuberant Heat, Shigao, Zhimu, Tianhuafen, Huanglian, Shengdiguang and Maimendong were added. If there was KI Yin Depletion and Vacuity, Liuwei Dihuang Wan (Six Flavors Rehmannia Pills) were added. If there was Qi and Yin Dual Vacuity, Renshen, Huangqi, Maimendong, Tianmendong, Zhimu & Fuling were added. If there was Yin and Yang True Vacuity, Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan (Golden Cabinet KI Qi Pills) was added. One packet of these medicinals was decocted in water twice to obtain 400ml of liquid and administered warm bid, morning and evening; 30d = 1 course; 1-2 courses were given before outcomes were analyzed. For details, see http://tinyurl.com/yj8h7s Best regards, HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0) < " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " - Chinese Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Just wanted to thank everyone for their input/answers to my query. You've given me lots to chew on. Not sure what I am going to try yet but I will keep you posted. Adam Schreiber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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