Trimming posts - The law of cure OR healing crisis

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Not to pick on you Doug - but if posters wouldn't mind - please trim

your posts of the hundreds of lines of quoted response. For the

digest readers, it gets quite tedious. (annoying long quote for example)

Thanks

Geoff

 

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wrote:

>

> Jason and Z'ev, fair enough. Although I agree that there are hints,

I can't think of many

> outside of SHL and as you remind me, in Wen Bing. Perhaps Zang-fu

Theory is less used to

> this type of perception because qi gets shuttled around the

different organs to be

> eventually eliminated - presumably through the urination and the

stool. One doesn't

> expect heart heat when treated with Huang Lian to show up as heat in

the Small Intestine-

> urination.- No, it gets eliminated at the source and then drained

often with the assistance

> of the Fu lIng, Mu dan pi etc.. . SHL and Wen Bing has a special

from outside to inside

> progression. Perhaps that is the uniqueness of it's onion skin.

>

> I am sorry to hear that the patients in Boulder are on to the

" healing crisis " defense.

> Hopefully they won't catch on the West Coast for awhile. ;-)

>

> doug

>

>

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<@> wrote:

> >

> > Doug,

> >

> >

> >

> > I think that your response may be generally true, but the healing

crisis and

> > homeopathic ideas like peeling away an onion do exist in Chinese

medicine.

> > This example is one reason I picked the case study that Chip and I

released

> > recently in the Lantern. It can be viewed at:

> >

> >

> >

> >

Chinese Medicine/index.php?page=Chinese_Medicine_Articles)

 

> >

> >

> >

> > The title is Lurking Pathogens: A Qing Dynasty Case Study.

> >

> >

> >

> > It talks about lurking pathogens having multiple layers. The result of

> > peeling away a layer, revealing the subsequent layer, can produce

s/s that

> > are worse then the first (layer). I have seen this in real

clinical practice

> > and will be publishing a personal case study that demonstrates

this idea, in

> > the near future. The key to understanding this concept is

differentiating

> > between a " proper progression " or " proper eviction " of a pathogen

and what

> > is just a mistreatment.

> >

> >

> >

> > But maybe more straightforward is looking at basic wenbing lurking

pathogen

> > theory. IMO, it does support the idea of healing crisis. Let us define

> > healing crisis. The patient's presentation (s/s) gets much worse

as a result

> > of treatment and then get better, resolving an previous issue. (is

that

> > fair?) If so, let us look at a lurking pathogen that resides in

the ying

> > level as an example.

> >

> >

> >

> > When pathogen lingers in the ying or blood levels, the s/s

actually might

> > not be that severe. But as the pathogen is evicted out to i.e. the

qi level,

> > the presentation can suddenly become very violent and look much

worse then

> > what the patient normally deals with. They can feel quite 'sick'.

This is

> > especially true if their ying level pathogen has been hanging out

for years.

> > The eviction (to the qi level) can be the result of a proper

treatment! Of

> > course at this point in time one can evict the pathogen out of the

body

> > (potentially through the bowels). This experience, in the moment,

can be

> > unsettling if one does not understand what is happening.

Therefore, if one

> > understands lurking pathogen theory as well as wenbing 4 stages,

then one

> > can not only predict the course of disease but ensure the patient

that they

> > are having a positive progression.

> >

> >

> >

> > So I do disagree with the statement that " CM does not have a hint

of healing

> > crisis except for the SHL " ; warm disease theory does contain this. But

> > generally speaking though, I think that people overuse the healing

crisis

> > concept to justify their mistreatment, and patients, at least in

Boulder,

> > are on to that one .

> >

> >

> >

> > I hope this expands things a bit.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of Douglas

 

> > Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:35 PM

> >

> > Re: The " law of cure " OR " healing crisis "

> >

> >

> >

> > This has been discussed at length and elequently explained by Z'ev

on a

> > different list. But

> > my short answer to this is that save for a few cases in the Shang

Han Lun

> > there is no hint

> > of " healing crisis " in TCM. To have one, for me, in TCM is simply

wrong

> > treatment. TCM

> > treatments should gracefully lead one back to restored health without

> > crisis.

> > Lonny Jarrett and others when focused on mental or spiritual

health may see

> > the

> > unsurfacing of emotions expressed in physical forms. I would say

that even

> > then it is the

> > responsibility of the practitioner to guide the patient into

balance not

> > simply tip the scales

> > in the opposite direction. And to be clear, I'm not saying that

Jarrett

> > doesn't, just that

> > those furtherest from TCM tend to view unwelcomed responses with

the excuse

> > of a

> > healing crisis.

> > Again, the homeopathic issue of a healing crisis is a different

paradigm.

> >

> > doug

> >

> > @

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> > , " " <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Thomas, Attilio & All,

> > >

> > > What is YOUR experience of the " healing crisis " and/or " Hering's

Law of

> > > Cure " in YOUR patients, especially those treated with

acupuncture-type

> > > therapy (including laser, point-injection, guasha, moxibustion,

qigong,

> > etc)

> > > or herbal medicine?

> > >

> > > http://users. <http://users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/healingcrisis.html>

> > mrbean.net.au/~wlast/healingcrisis.html says:

> > >

> > > " HERING'S LAW OF CURE: " All cure starts from within out, from

the head

> > > down and in reverse order as the symptoms have appeared. "

> > >

> > > Dr John Whitman Ray ... modified Hering's Law to the following:

> > >

> > > LAW OF HEALING CRISIS: " A healing crisis will occur only when an

> > > individual is ready both physiologically and psychologically.

The basic

> > > foundation for all healing is nutritional preparedness. A

healing crisis

> > will

> > > begin from within out, in reverse order chronologically as to

how the

> > > symptoms have appeared, tempered by the intensity of the trauma.

The

> > > individual will have the opportunity to re-experience each

trauma, both

> > > physiological and psychological, beginning with the trauma of least

> > severity.

> > > It must be recognised that traumas involving emotions, which

include all

> > > traumas, will be released in order, beginning with

unconsciousness, then

> > > apathy, grief, fear, anger, pain and eventually enthusiasm

(love), in

> > > conjunction with the appropriate word patterns for each emotion and

> > > thought pattern (sensory memory) which are accessible at each

level.

> > > Unconditional love and unconditional forgiveness are the keys to

apply and

> >

> > > transmute any resistance at any level, once these resistances

are brought

> > > to view through the application of the laws of love, light and

perfection.

> > >

> > > With this definition Dr. Ray emphasises the importance of the

emotional

> > > side of our health problems. Each disease, accident or surgical

> > intervention

> > > contains a strong emotional component which needs to be

re-experienced

> > > during a reaction, otherwise the healing will remain incomplete

and the

> > > problem will present itself again at a later time for healing at

a deeper

> > level.

> > > This also means that the body selects the kind of healing crisis

that is

> > most

> > > appropriate at the time, taking into consideration its needs and

abilities

> > to

> > > have a certain area healed or improved. We can consciously

influence this

> > > choice by working on a particular problem. I also noticed that

the body

> > self

> > > tries to select a timing, which does not disable us during important

> > events

> > > coming up. I have no doubt that we are guided on our healing

path by our

> > > inner intelligence, which has our best interest at heart. In the

beginning

> > our

> > > healing reactions will be mainly on the physical or biological

level, but

> > more

> > > and more we will experience the release of emotional blocks and

changes

> > > in consciousness, preparing us for greater activity on the spiritual

> > level. "

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