Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Does anyone have any comment on the fact that certain American herb manufacturers allow their lines to be sold online to the general public, without any input from a practioner? I occasionally use patents and have recently had several patients say that they would 'get their refills online'... This affects my bottom-line- I mean I not going to become a millionaire from selling a few bottles of herbs but... I think my response to this will be to discontinue using those companies and switch to others, such as Blue Poppy who sell only to licensed practioners. Which companies?- google will answer that. Any comments? Sincerely, David Appleton L.Ac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 David, Come to LA or any major center that has a Chinatown and to paraphrase Arlo Guthrie: " You can get anything you want (even needles!). " Seriously, there is one particularly large store that sells patents, raw herbs, foods, and clothing and you name it, on the major street of LA Chinatown, North Broadway. Their patent section ALWAYS is packed with people looking to cure themselves, just like Whole Foods, for instance. Of course they have a nutritional adviser who is there to guide the consumer who needs to treat everything from indigestion to to arthritis to hypertension. That is the reality in our day and age. The approach is basically libertarian and laissee faire (just leave it alone, as long as they don't claim to cure cancer, of course, territorial issue!) I would love to have our medicines regulated BY US. But I also don't want the FDA and DEA taking away my ability to get what I need for my patients. So for now, it's just the way it is. Is that any different than on-line accessability to herbs or vitamins? Yehuda david appleton <acuapple wrote: Does anyone have any comment on the fact that certain American herb manufacturers allow their lines to be sold online to the general public, without any input from a practioner? I occasionally use patents and have recently had several patients say that they would 'get their refills online'... This affects my bottom-line- I mean I not going to become a millionaire from selling a few bottles of herbs but... I think my response to this will be to discontinue using those companies and switch to others, such as Blue Poppy who sell only to licensed practioners. Which companies?- google will answer that. Any comments? Sincerely, David Appleton L.Ac http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yehuda, I understand that patents are available- the asian black ball ones, the potentially heavy metalled, drug addled ones; I have no problem with people consuming them, if they want to risk that- What am I referring to are the other so-called professional formulas- allegedly stronger, drug-free- they are marketed to us as being a cut above the Asian ones, and most companies required an acupuncture license to open an account; I was under the impression that their availablity was restricted to Licensed or otherwise qualified individuals. I think this feeds into one of the current threads about making a living- what is the point in me spending my time dispensing these products in a thoughtful manner, and making my tiny margin, to have my patients turn around and get them at the same or cheaper cost online? This cuts into an income stream I have, further degrading my ability to survive and prosper. I guess my solution is to stick to raw herbs and to choose Blue Poppy and others who stand by their committment to us, the practioners. BTW I really enjoy your comments on here- thanks for keeping things lively. Kind regardes, David --- wrote: > David, > > Come to LA or any major center that has a > Chinatown and to paraphrase Arlo Guthrie: " You can > get anything you want (even needles!). " > Seriously, there is one particularly large store > that sells patents, raw herbs, foods, and clothing > and you name it, on the major street of LA > Chinatown, North Broadway. Their patent section > ALWAYS is packed with people looking to cure > themselves, just like Whole Foods, for instance. Of > course they have a nutritional adviser who is there > to guide the consumer who needs to treat everything > from indigestion to to arthritis to hypertension. > That is the reality in our day and age. The > approach is basically libertarian and laissee faire > (just leave it alone, as long as they don't claim to > cure cancer, of course, territorial issue!) I > would love to have our medicines regulated BY US. > But I also don't want the FDA and DEA taking away my > ability to get what I need for my patients. So for > now, it's just the way it is. Is that any > different than on-line accessability to herbs or > vitamins? > > Yehuda > > david appleton <acuapple wrote: > Does anyone have any comment on the fact > that certain > American herb manufacturers allow their lines to be > sold online to the general public, without any input > from a practioner? I occasionally use patents and > have > recently had several patients say that they would > 'get > their refills online'... This affects my > bottom-line- > I mean I not going to become a millionaire from > selling a few bottles of herbs but... I think my > response to this will be to discontinue using those > companies and switch to others, such as Blue Poppy > who > sell only to licensed practioners. Which companies?- > google will answer that. Any comments? > > Sincerely, > > David Appleton L.Ac > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yehuda, You are correct, you can buy anything but I think it is highly unprofessional for America-based companies, who supposedly work together closely with their client CM practitioners, to sell prescribed herbal medicines to the lay public. It is an unacceptable practice. On Dec 22, 2006, at 10:10 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > David, > > Come to LA or any major center that has a Chinatown and to > paraphrase Arlo Guthrie: " You can get anything you want (even > needles!). " Seriously, there is one particularly large store that > sells patents, raw herbs, foods, and clothing and you name it, on > the major street of LA Chinatown, North Broadway. Their patent > section ALWAYS is packed with people looking to cure themselves, > just like Whole Foods, for instance. Of course they have a > nutritional adviser who is there to guide the consumer who needs to > treat everything from indigestion to to arthritis to hypertension. > That is the reality in our day and age. The approach is basically > libertarian and laissee faire (just leave it alone, as long as they > don't claim to cure cancer, of course, territorial issue!) I would > love to have our medicines regulated BY US. But I also don't want > the FDA and DEA taking away my ability to get what I need for my > patients. So for now, it's just the way it is. Is that any > different than on-line accessability to herbs or vitamins? > > Yehuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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