Wikipedia listing on Traditional Chinese Medicine

[Guest guest]

The Wikipedia article on TCM, especially the sections on efficacy are

woefully bad. Might I suggest that someone more sophisticated than I

make changes to the pages? There are too many " safe, if not effective "

and " placebo " comments!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

 

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[Guest guest]

I actually found it to be a quite reasonable article. Fact is there is very

little evidence for the efficacy of TCM by any modern standards. The authors

have a decent reference list:

 

* Chang, Stephen T. The Great Tao; Tao Longevity; ISBN 0-942196-01-5 Stephen

T. Chang

* Kaptchuck, Ted J., The Web That Has No Weaver; Congdon & Weed; ISBN

0-8092-2933-1Z

* Jin, Guanyuan, Xiang, Jia-Jia and Jin, Lei: Clinical Reflexology of

Acupuncture and Moxibustion; Beijing Science and Technology Press, Beijing,

2004. ISBN 7-5304-2862-4

* Maciocia, Giovanni, The Foundations of : A Comprehensive

Text for Acupuncturists and Herbalists; Churchill Livingstone; ISBN

0-443-03980-1

* Ni, Mao-Shing, The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine : A New

Translation of the Neijing Suwen with Commentary; Shambhala, 1995; ISBN

1-57062-080-6

* Holland, Alex Voices of Qi: An Introductory Guide to Traditional Chinese

Medicine; North Atlantic Books, 2000; ISBN 1-55643-326-3

* Unschuld, Paul U., Medicine in China: A History of Ideas; University of

California Press, 1985; ISBN 0-520-05023-1

* Scheid, Volker, in Contemporary China: Plurality and

Synthesis; Duke University Press, 2002; ISBN 0-8223-2972-0

* Qu, Jiecheng, When Meets Western Medicine - History and

Ideas (in Chinese); Joint Publishing (H.K.), 2004; ISBN 962-04-2336-4

* Chan, T.Y. (2002). Incidence of herb-induced aconitine poisoning in Hong

Kong: impact of publicity measures to promote awareness among the herbalists and

the public. Drug Saf. 25:823–828.

* Benowitz, Neal L. (2000) Review of adverse reaction reports involving

ephedrine-containing herbal products. Submitted to U.S. Food and Drug

Administration. Jan. 17.

* Porkert, Manfred The Theoretical Foundations of MIT

Press, 1974 ISBN 0-262-16058-7

* Hongyi, L., Hua, T., Jiming, H., Lianxin, C., Nai, L., Weiya, X., Wentao,

M. (2003) Perivascular Space: Possible anatomical substrate for the meridian.

Journal of Complimentary and Alternative Medicine. 9:6 (2003) pp851-859

 

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Karen Vaughan <creationsgarden1

> The Wikipedia article on TCM, especially the sections on efficacy are

> woefully bad. Might I suggest that someone more sophisticated than I

> make changes to the pages? There are too many " safe, if not effective "

> and " placebo " comments!

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

>

> --

> Karen Vaughan, MSTOM

> Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist

> 253 Garfield Place

> Brooklyn, NY 11215

>

> (718) 622-6755

>

> Co-Conspirator to Make the World A Better Place: Visit

> http://www.heroicstories.com/ and join the conspiracy

> See my Acupuncture and Herbs website at: http://ksvaughan2.byregion.net/

> And my website at Avon Walk for Breast Cancer 2005

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

There were apparently multiple writers to the wikipedia article on

Traditional , ranging from people knowledgeable about

the history to some with an overt Quackbusters agenda who have made some

serious revisions. The list of sources therefore does not reflect an

overall thoughtful authorship, but accumulations of sources from

multiple authors, and conclusions hence are not based on an evaluation

of serious literature. The question isn't whether there are many modern

tests of it, although if you go to the Japanese and Korean literature I

suspect you will find more than are usually acknowledged, but gratuitous

comments about its being a placebo, " if efficacious " and the like.

Besides we know that the type of tests done in a western context tend to

miss the patterns differentiation and the like, and that needs to be

said (and referenced, since the criterion in a Wikipedia article is not

truth but verifiability.

 

--

Karen Vaughan, MSTOM

Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist

253 Garfield Place

Brooklyn, NY 11215

 

(718) 622-6755

 

Co-Conspirator to Make the World A Better Place: Visit

http://www.heroicstories.com/ and join the conspiracy

See my Acupuncture and Herbs website at: http://ksvaughan2.byregion.net/

And my website at Avon Walk for Breast Cancer 2005

[Guest guest]

In the last few days, the TCMpedia.com has gone up as a result of discussions on

another

list that Attelio used to run. It appears now to be an clean slate for those who

would like to

try their hand at making history.

 

doug

 

, Karen Vaughan <creationsgarden1

wrote:

>

> There were apparently multiple writers to the wikipedia article on

> Traditional , ranging from people knowledgeable about

> the history to some with an overt Quackbusters agenda who have made some

> serious revisions. The list of sources therefore does not reflect an

> overall thoughtful authorship, but accumulations of sources from

> multiple authors, and conclusions hence are not based on an evaluation

> of serious literature. The question isn't whether there are many modern

> tests of it, although if you go to the Japanese and Korean literature I

> suspect you will find more than are usually acknowledged, but gratuitous

> comments about its being a placebo, " if efficacious " and the like.

> Besides we know that the type of tests done in a western context tend to

> miss the patterns differentiation and the like, and that needs to be

> said (and referenced, since the criterion in a Wikipedia article is not

> truth but verifiability.

>

> --

> Karen Vaughan, MSTOM

> Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist

> 253 Garfield Place

> Brooklyn, NY 11215

>

> (718) 622-6755

> >