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with non-active diseases, as doug stated, won't we want to know dz mechanisms

and build those into our tx's? for hepatitis(es), we can tonify + harmonize any

liv-gb imbalances we find. the wood looks fine? something won't. remember, anne

and others can follow this, a wood imbalance doesn't have to show up in lv or

gb. it may show up in another stressed organ system. i would also certainly

include triple heater here to strengthen the immune system- even if that isn't

chinese! lynn

 

wrote:

this is a great question. The issue becomes more complex when you realize that

many of

these diseases are Western diseases. I think Bob Flaws has said that a

disharmony can

always be found and that should be treated. This may mean digging deeper into

the pulse

and tongue and other diagnostic skills that are beyond " confirmation " of the

patient's

complaints.

Still I think one can treat western diseases by understanding their mechanisms

in

conjunction with the Chinese signs and symptoms.

Just because they don't have the symptoms at the present time doesn't mean a

picture

can't be put together based on how the disease manifests in a more active stage.

Some of these issues are addressed on my website HepcHealth.com

 

 

doug

 

 

 

 

, " Trevor Erikson " <trevor_erikson

wrote:

>

> Thanks Lea,

> I understand the idea behind Yu Ping Feng San and Bu fei Tang, but again these

> treatmetns are based on a pattern discrimination.

> Like you Lea I am a bit lost when it comes to treating the diseases that lay

hidden and

> dormant like Hep C, or Herpes Simplex. What is a good treatment plan when

there are

no

> signs and symptoms related to that hidden disease. That is, unless I am not

able to

> identify them.

>

> Trevor

>

> disease , " Lea Starck " <leabun1@>

wrote:

> >

> > Im no expert, but with diseases like excema and asthma etc, you can

> > treat during the " remission " stage to treat the underlying cause of the

> > disorder and to help prevent the acute stage. So with asthma you can

> > use something like Yu Ping Feng San, Xiang Sha Liu Jun Zi Tang, Bu

> > Fei Tang or whatever to treat the underlying constitutional problem.

> > WIth Excema I guess you would look at similar underlying

> > constitutional problems such as eg spleen deficiency etc and tonify

> > that.

> > What I cant work out, is what do you do if someone comes to you with

> > say, subclinical or asymptomatic hepatitis C and wants to avoid either

> > an acute episode or hepatoma down the track? How do you go about

> > treating that? Or is it the same principle of tonification during remission

> > stages? (I know western herbs that apply, but not the CM differentiation)

> > Regards,

> > Lea.

> > , " Trevor Erikson "

> > <trevor_erikson@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I would love to hear a discussion about the role we play in

> > prevention. Knowing that the

> > > way works and is via pattern discrimination, I get a

> > bit lost when

> > > patients come to me for treatments to prevent some deep seated,

> > latent, disease from

> > > coming up, when they appear to be healthy in the present sense.

> > When I cannot find any

> > > signs and symptoms for which to build a pattern and thus a treatment

> > principle.

> > > I recently had a patient ask for help because she has chronic wide

> > spread excema that is

> > > under control when she is on the birth control pill. She wants to come

> > off this drug but is

> > > afraid of the rash coming back. If she is not exhibiting the excema in

> > the moment is the

> > > best approach to " wait and see " or ....

> > > This could be for reccurent sinusitis, herpes simplex/ zoster, asthma

> > ect.

> > >

> > > Love to hear peoples thoughts,

> > > Trevor

> > >

> >

>

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