frequent modification of formulae

[Guest guest]

Agreed, Mike, and I would add that though not always practical, this principle

of modifying herbs in dynamic conditions, particularly if acute should be the

standand of diagnosis and treatment. I had a conversation with

yesterday, and we discussed this very issue concerning my wife's condition.

Over the past couple of months, as I have written, I have divided her formulae

in half--about 10 herbs (generally supplementing qi) AM, and 10 herbs (generally

supplementing yin and calming) PM. Each formula lasts 3 days and then I subtly

adjust either the herbs or the dosages based upon her s/s. I wish that there

was a quicker way to prepare and dispense herbs, in order to do that with other

patients, as it's quite time consuming, but then again, I love working with the

herbs and feel that my preparation is an energetic connection with them.

 

All the best,

 

Yehuda

 

 

Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote:

Yehuda, and Doug,

 

Adding some tonification herbs is the right thing to do when you see the need.

One very important thing though is to observe the change of s/s from 4-diagnosis

very closely and modify the prescription accordingly. Often, a prescription is

used for a day or two, then changed because of the s/s change.

 

Mike L.

 

 

wrote:

Hi Doug,

 

I have treated a few cancer patients recently, and maybe it's just me, but they

all display two very interesting yet disturbing common denominators: they all

seem to be extremely guarded, controlling and irritable, and they also seem to

reflect different deep and superficial pulses, on at least one point, for

example Kidney Yang being superficially thready and weak, but deep being thready

and rapid. This brings me to my observation on your patient. I think that cancer

patients really need to get some kind of body work to get in touch with their

bodies, be it tui na, Tai ji, qi gong, Craniosacral therapy, or something else.

I have read that cancer cells, which don't have mitochondria are cells which

proliferate out of control, from a host being disconnected from his/her body. As

such, I would absolutely agree with you to use tonic herbs as well as

anti-cancer herbs. Strengthening the soma by tonifying qi and Yang promote the

body's connectivity and metabolism,

and tonifying the blood and yin give the building blocks that enable the qi to

distribute the life force. I personally don't think that the rule we are taught

of not tonifying in the presence of an outside pathogen applies with Cancer,

because I believe that the mechanism of Cancer is completely different.

 

Yehuda

 

wrote:

I had a very severly ill cancer patient come in to the student clinic last week.

Very tragic case,

the man was 40 years old and metastasis to lung and liver from the original

Kidney cancer.

Fortunately he is not in much pain right now. His friend had put him on a

macrobiotic diet. I

see little hope for long or even short-term survival outside of a miracle.

My intern was confused because of the number of tonic herbs that I put in his

formula along

with a few anti-cancer herbs. He thought that the tonics would just " feed the

cancer " .

 

What have others thoughts been in terminal cases?

 

Doug

 

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Thanks for that,

Phil.

> Ann

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[Guest guest]

Yehuda,

Undoubtedly it is very difficult to modify prescriptions on a day

by day basis, but sometimes it is necessary. Like you it is an issue

I struggle with, as I work alone with no assistants. I think to do

this on a day by day basis one needs at least one dedicated

assistant, a raw herb or granular pharmacy, and time to follow up

cases as needed, sometimes several times in a day.

 

This is less of an issue with more chronic, long-term, or

constitutional issues.

 

By the way, the Shang Han Lun is a great text to study to learn

how to follow up on progressions of cold damage or wind strike, and

modify or change prescriptions accordingly.

 

 

On Feb 2, 2007, at 10:14 AM, yehuda frischman wrote:

 

> Agreed, Mike, and I would add that though not always practical,

> this principle of modifying herbs in dynamic conditions,

> particularly if acute should be the standand of diagnosis and

> treatment. I had a conversation with yesterday, and

> we discussed this very issue concerning my wife's condition. Over

> the past couple of months, as I have written, I have divided her

> formulae in half--about 10 herbs (generally supplementing qi) AM,

> and 10 herbs (generally supplementing yin and calming) PM. Each

> formula lasts 3 days and then I subtly adjust either the herbs or

> the dosages based upon her s/s. I wish that there was a quicker way

> to prepare and dispense herbs, in order to do that with other

> patients, as it's quite time consuming, but then again, I love

> working with the herbs and feel that my preparation is an energetic

> connection with them.

>

> All the best,

>

> Yehuda