Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Hi Carl, I've been to India 5 times and spent about a year there in total. The first time i went in 1998 i was ill alot and my spleen and stomach have still not completely recovered, for example i can't eat under- cooked eggs anymore. Whilst i was in India last November i was completely fine. The trick to staying healthy is to eat at busy restaurants where the locals are eating. I wouldn't eat any western style food, it doesn't taste the same, it's expensive and it will make you ill. Of course, drink bottled water although i do use local water to brush my teeth, no problems. I usually just take some Bao He Wan and some acupuncture needles. Although you could take some Huang Lian Jie Du Wan as well. If you get loose stools it will probably be bacause of eating spicy food or exposure to heat. If you do get food poisoning (Delhi belly), then just eat some fibre powder or plain bread (no butter) or plain rice. Coca Cola is also good for a bad stomach. Also take some electrolites incase you loose alot of fluids and need to rehydrate. In any case, you're a lucky man going to India. I may visit that instituite myself one day. What conditions will you be treating there? Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com , Carl Stimson <carlstimson wrote: > > Hi all, > > My name is Carl Stimson, I'm in my last semester at World Medicine Institute in Honolulu Hawaii. This summer I'll be heading to Beijing to work at a publishing company helping to translate books about TCM into English as well as studying and observing in the hospitals. Recent posts have inspired me to try and study in the cancer wards over there. > > Also I had a post I have been meaning to send for a while so I'll include it here... > > Right after graduation I'll be traveling in India for a month. I'm trying to decide what medicines to take with me. I've had some advice which included: Ge Gen Qin Lian Tang, Huo Xiang Zheng Qi Tang, Xing Jun San, Huang Lian Jie Du Tang, Curing Pills, etc. Basically I was thinking of taking one strong heat clearing formula, one to keep my spleen in working order, and one tonic that fit my constitution. Any advice from those with travel experience would be appreciated. > > While I'm there I plan to spend a little time at the Acupuncture Institute of Ananda Nagar. It's a free clinic and school in West India that was featured in Acupuncture Today a couple of years ago. Their website is quite interesting, www.acuindia.org > I'm doing to do some local fund raising for the clinic here in Hawaii and am asking local practitioners to take a donation bottle on their front counters for a month. If anyone in CHA is interested in having a donation bottle at their clinic I can send you the document I'm using as a label which can be taped to any jar. After a month, the proceeds can be mailed to me and I'll get them to the people in India. If you're interested, please contact me at carlstimson > > Thanks to all who post, I've learned a lot since I joined a year ago. > > Carl > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > http://new.mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 The best combination I have used for traveler's diarrhea is Huang Lian Su with Mu Xiang Shun Qi Wan. HLS kills the bugs and MXSQW gets the intestines working again. A teaspoon of psyllium in 8 - 12 ounces of water will also firm up the stools, but it should be taken at a different time than the herbs. I have seen these herbs work in developing countries all over the world. Take 2-3 HLS and 16 MXSQW 3 times per day until the symptoms are gone. If you don't want to use Huang Lian Su, any patent with mostly Huang Lian and Huang Qin will do. Don't use a formula with Da Huang in it, unless you enjoy spending quality time in the bathroom. Also, Indian food is delicious, so the tendency is to eat a lot. It will be easier on your system if you eat smaller quantities at meals. Stay away from street stalls! Some of them never wash their utensils, or they use filthy water to do so. Stick to good restaurants when you can, like in hotels. Even a fancy restaurant will be easy to afford. If you can't find bottled water, drink coconut water straight from the green coconut. ............................................. Bill Schoenbart, L.Ac. P.O. Box 8099 Santa Cruz, CA 95061 office phone: 831-335-3165 email: plantmed ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Attilio, Thanks for the advice. I wonder what the TCM actions of coca-cola are As for what I'll be treating at the clinic in India, I'm not exactly sure but I bet there will be a lot of disorders I've never treated or even seen treated before. Their website has an interesting page on treatment statistics where they list some of the things they treat most. Here's the link http://acuindia.org/tc_treatmentstatistics.shtml Cheers, Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Hi Carl, Yes, i've checked out their website and had a look. Interesting... I think it helps the Stomach bloating and food retention by being so gasy and with the sugars it boosts Spleen Qi. Whilst having Delhi belly, you can live off the sugars in Coca Cola for several days, whilst your stomach heals itself. I read that farmers in India use Coca Cola to fertilise their crops. It's cheaper and more effective than regular fertiliser, so God knows what's in it. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com , " carlstimson " <carlstimson wrote: > > Attilio, > > Thanks for the advice. I wonder what the TCM actions of coca-cola are > > As for what I'll be treating at the clinic in India, I'm not exactly > sure but I bet there will be a lot of disorders I've never treated or > even seen treated before. Their website has an interesting page on > treatment statistics where they list some of the things they treat > most. Here's the link http://acuindia.org/tc_treatmentstatistics.shtml > > Cheers, > > Carl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Actually, it's being used as a pesticide... Perhaps more because of the type of insect it attracts than actually killing any. I believe this is a rather common usage around the world for many decades. doug , " " <attiliodalberto wrote: > > I read that farmers in India use Coca Cola to fertilise their crops. > It's cheaper and more effective than regular fertiliser, so God knows > what's in it. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Things grow better with Coke John Vidal Tuesday November 2, 2004 The Guardian Indian farmers have come up with what they think is the real thing to keep crops free of bugs. Instead of paying hefty fees to international chemical companies for patented pesticides, they are reportedly spraying their cotton and chilli fields with Coca-Cola. In the past month there have been reports of hundreds of farmers turning to Coke in Andhra Pradesh and Chattisgarh states. But as word gets out that soft drinks may be bad for bugs and a lot cheaper than anything that Messrs Monsanto, Shell and Dow can offer, thousands of others are expected to switch. Gotu Laxmaiah, a farmer from Ramakrishnapuram in Andra Pradesh, said he was delighted with his new cola spray, which he applied this year to several hectares of cotton. " I observed that the pests began to die after the soft drink was sprayed on my cotton, " he told the Deccan Herald newspaper. Coca-Cola has had a bad year in India. Other farmers in Andra Pradesh state accused the company of over-extracting underground water for its bottling plants and a government committee upheld findings that drinks made in India by itself and PepsiCo contained unacceptable amounts of pesticide residue. But Mr Laxmaiah and others say their cola sprays are invaluable because they are safe to handle, do not need to be diluted and, mainly, are cheap. One litre of highly concentrated Avant, Tracer and Nuvocron, three popular Indian pesticides, costs around 10,000 rupees (¡ê120), but one-and-a-half litres of locally made Coca-Cola is 30 rupees. To spray an acre would be a mere 270 rupees. It is clearly not Coke's legendary " secret " ingredient that is upsetting the bugs. The farmers also swear by Pepsi, Thums Up, and other local soft drinks. The main ingredients of all colas are water and sugar but some manufacturers add citric and phosphoric acids to give that extra bite to human taste buds. Yesterday a leading Indian agriculture analyst, Devinder Sharma, said: " I think Coke has found its right use. Farmers have traditionally used sugary solutions to attract red ants to feed on insect larvae. " I think the colas are also performing the same role. " The properties of Coke have been discussed for years. It has been reported that it is a fine lavatory cleaner, a good windscreen wipe and an efficient rust spot remover. Uncorroborated reports from China claimed that the ill-fated New Coke was widely used in China as a spermicide. Yesterday a spokesman for Coca-Cola in Atlanta said: " We are aware of one isolated case where a farmer may have used a soft drink as part of his crop management routine. " Soft drinks do not act in a similar way to pesticides when applied to the ground or crops. There is no scientific basis for this and the use of soft drinks for this purpose would be totally ineffective " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 They must dilute the crap out of it, it is used in the US to denature blood at accident scenes because it is so acidic. You actually can't legally pour it down the drain in some jurisdictions, though I don't think it stops anybody... Par - " " <attiliodalberto Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:02 PM Re: Advice for traveling in India > Hi Carl, > > Yes, i've checked out their website and had a look. Interesting... > > I think it helps the Stomach bloating and food retention by being so > gasy and with the sugars it boosts Spleen Qi. Whilst having Delhi > belly, you can live off the sugars in Coca Cola for several days, > whilst your stomach heals itself. > > I read that farmers in India use Coca Cola to fertilise their crops. > It's cheaper and more effective than regular fertiliser, so God knows > what's in it. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > , " carlstimson " > <carlstimson wrote: >> >> Attilio, >> >> Thanks for the advice. I wonder what the TCM actions of coca-cola > are >> >> As for what I'll be treating at the clinic in India, I'm not exactly >> sure but I bet there will be a lot of disorders I've never treated > or >> even seen treated before. Their website has an interesting page on >> treatment statistics where they list some of the things they treat >> most. Here's the link > http://acuindia.org/tc_treatmentstatistics.shtml >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl >> > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including a > practitioner's directory and a moderated discussion forum. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Its also not allowed to be given to patients that have recently received a donated organ. As Coca Cola won't say what's in it, doctors can't take the chance that it may cause an organ rejection. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com , " Par Scott " <parufus wrote: > > They must dilute the crap out of it, it is used in the US to denature blood > at accident scenes because it is so acidic. You actually can't legally pour > it down the drain in some jurisdictions, though I don't think it stops > anybody... > > Par > - > " " <attiliodalberto > > Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:02 PM > Re: Advice for traveling in India > > > > Hi Carl, > > > > Yes, i've checked out their website and had a look. Interesting... > > > > I think it helps the Stomach bloating and food retention by being so > > gasy and with the sugars it boosts Spleen Qi. Whilst having Delhi > > belly, you can live off the sugars in Coca Cola for several days, > > whilst your stomach heals itself. > > > > I read that farmers in India use Coca Cola to fertilise their crops. > > It's cheaper and more effective than regular fertiliser, so God knows > > what's in it. > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > , " carlstimson " > > <carlstimson@> wrote: > >> > >> Attilio, > >> > >> Thanks for the advice. I wonder what the TCM actions of coca- cola > > are > >> > >> As for what I'll be treating at the clinic in India, I'm not exactly > >> sure but I bet there will be a lot of disorders I've never treated > > or > >> even seen treated before. Their website has an interesting page on > >> treatment statistics where they list some of the things they treat > >> most. Here's the link > > http://acuindia.org/tc_treatmentstatistics.shtml > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Carl > >> > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including a > > practitioner's directory and a moderated discussion forum. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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