the many benefits of coke (except in our bodies!)

February 19, 2007

Z'ev,

You are preaching to the choir. That is the exact point that I was making.

Coke is poison! No matter what the form. Though it may not cause fever any

more, it's plenty toxic. The sugar and phosphoric acid in it destroys people's

immune systems, pancreas and teeth, and the caffeine acts as a diuretic and

pulls out essential minerals as well.

For a comparison of water vs coke, and the industrial benefits of coke, check

out this site: www.webdeb.com/oils/water.htm

Yehuda

<zrosenbe wrote:

I don't mean to rock the boat, but in my opinion, cola and soft

drinks are poisonous, whether sugared or artificially sweetened.

There is enough research out there to show the deleterious effects of

sodas and artificial sweeteners on health, especially children. Many

schools have banned cola and soft drink machines from their premises

because of this. If the multi-billion dollar advertising industry

was to suddenly stop selling this stuff, I think the intake of cola

drinks and sodas would decrease substantially.

On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:02 PM, yehuda frischman wrote:

> Two fond rememberances of Coke as a kid: (Now remember, in the 50s,

> the formula for Coca Cola was different than it is now) 1. When we

> wanted to get out of school, there was a " tradition " to take 2

> aspirin and drink a bottle of coke. The result, instant fever.

> " Mom, I don't feel good, I think I have a fever. " The fever would

> wear off in 3-4 hours.

>

> Second, I had a 6th grade history teacher, Mr. Forgess, who was a

> great story teller. He was in the navy during the Korean war, and

> as he tells it, they used to keep their coke in big barrels on the

> ship. One time, he left an axe on top of an open barrel for a

> minute, and suddenly a wave came alone and the axe fell in the

> barrel. He wasn't about to stick his arm deep inside, so had to

> wait until the barrel emptied, which took a day or two. When he

> went to retrieve the axe, at the bottom of the barrel, all that was

> left was the wooden handle, the metal was completely dissolved!

>

> So, to continue your thought Doug, talk about a great medicine to

> " break up " blood stasis?

>

> All the best and to all of us Americans out there, Happy

> Washington's birthday--I mean

> president's day!

>

> Yehuda

>

> wrote:

> I was taught by my teacher to soak 30 grams of E Jiao in 25 ml of

> Coca-Cola for 3 days

> and then apply to skin.

>

> JUST KIDDING!

>

> doug

>

> , yehuda frischman

> < wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

> >

> > I have 2 patients that I have been treating for varicose veins of

> different etiologies, a

> husband and wife team, both in their early 60s, his primary problem

> is type 2 diabetes

> with a primary diagnosis of Kd and Sp Qi Xu, and with accompanying

> peripheral

> neuropathy (which BTW has responded beautifully to herbs,

> acupuncture and CST). Her

> pattern is blood xu and damp heat in the LJ causing blood stasis

> (she originally had a

> slippery, thready and choppy pulse, primarily in the Kd yang pulse,

> which is now just

> slippery and thready).

> >

> > Here are my two questions: First, I am considering doing bleeding

> and cupping on

> them, but I am REALLY concerned with the possibility of infection

> from the cups. I am also

> considering the possibility of using only one set of cups per

> patient, to prevent cross

> infection. Forgetting about prions (which of course are a concern)

> how can you properly

> sterilize glass or plastic cups? It just seems to me to be unduly

> dangerous, despite the

> fact that in school there never was any concern. So by getting an

> individual set of cups per

> patient, it seems to be a reasonable way to go.

> >

> > Second, in Chen and Chen, under E Jiao, he lists in the section

> on Clinical studies and

> research:

> >

> > " Chronic ulceration of the legs: It was reported in one study of

> 24 patients that

> chronic ulcerations of the legs recovered completely form topical

> treatment with E Jiao

> cream for 20 days. The cream was prepared by mixing 30 grams of E

> Jiao in 70 ml of

> water and cooked until the preparation turned into paste. The daily

> protocol was to

> cleanse the affected area, apply the cream, then cover the area

> with gauze. The procedure

> was repeated daily until complete recovery was achieved. " Zhong Xi

> Yi Jie He Za Zhi

> (Journal of integrated Chinese and Western medicine) 1987;4:241.

> >

> > Has anyone heard of using E Jiao topically to specifically treat

> varicosities or generally

> as a skin cream, for one to " have skin as soft as a donkey! " (when

> treating blood Xu,

> specifically).

> >

> > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/

> >

>

> http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/

>

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

>

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February 19, 2007

Yehuda,

I wasn't thinking of you with my answer, but the many students

and practitioners who do drink the stuff on a regular basis. At

PCOM, at least a few students in every class have a diet cola at

their desks. If drunk on a regular basis, colas and sodas will reduce

the benefits of herbal medicine and acupuncture on health. Also,

every time I go to a synagogue for any celebration, there will be

sodas and colas galore that a large majority of guests consume.

Sometimes I think we don't pay enough attention to diet in modern CM

practice, least of all with ourselves.

On Feb 19, 2007, at 3:17 PM, yehuda frischman wrote:

> Z'ev,

>

> You are preaching to the choir. That is the exact point that I was

> making. Coke is poison! No matter what the form. Though it may not

> cause fever any more, it's plenty toxic. The sugar and phosphoric

> acid in it destroys people's immune systems, pancreas and teeth,

> and the caffeine acts as a diuretic and pulls out essential

> minerals as well.

>

> For a comparison of water vs coke, and the industrial benefits of

> coke, check out this site: www.webdeb.com/oils/water.htm

>

> Yehuda

February 20, 2007

Z'ev,

This is an incredibly important issue! I believe that the essence of Chinese

medicine (and Jewish medicine, for that matter) is creating balance and

connectivity. Consuming

non-foods or synthetically produced foods merely to satisfy one's palate is

the antithesis of what our medicine is about. And it's not a matter of being a

zealot, extremist or health food nut either! It's about practicing what we

preach and being more in touch with ourselves in order to be better agents of

healing for others. I think that the fault lies on a lethargy of spirit and a

lack of initiative by those that can make a difference. If our schools, our

teachers, and our leaders would not accept mediocrity, if educators would teach

their students passionately to guard and cultivate their emotional, spiritual,

mental and physical health, then you wouldn't see diet coke, and you wouldn't

see pirated textbooks. It all starts from the top, and when it matters to those

who are the role models, it will matter to the students, patients and followers

as well, IMVHO. As was recently posted, Chinese medicine really should inpact

every aspect of our life and lifestyle,

and we must encourage those who can influence to stand up and make a

difference. The Talmud quotes Rabban Gamliel who says that any scholar whose

interior is not consistant with his exterior, is not a scholar.

Respectfully