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Dear Group,

 

 

 

One of my patients has developed a severe grade III+ necrotic tissue ulcer

on two fingers. Both her fingers are very swollen, red and painful with her

tendons visible in one of them. Her GP and plastic surgeon (?) said that

she will probably lose at least one of the fingers, and just packed it with

Neosporin and sent her out the door. (Seems like there are better attempts

than that??) Anyway, I am wondering if anyone has experience treating this

condition (topically) with Chinese herbs or other therapies. I have found

some information in the book, " Complete External Therapies of Chinese

drugs " , but still unsure what I will attempt. I know this is a complicated

matter entailing proper debridement and infection control. If anyone on the

list could correspond with me on this please let me know. You can email me

privately if you like, and if possible I would like to call tomorrow

(Wednesday) and talk voice. Time is of the essence, please let me know ASAP.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

 

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Hello,

 

I have heard that Dr. Robert Smatt in San Diego is very effective with utlizing

acupuncture,

herbs and hyperbaric O2 chambers to treat cases of ulceration and gangrene. You

may

want

to give him a call and ask about his protocol.

His website is:

http://www.wholisticpetmed.com/about_the_doctor.htm

His phone #:

(858) 278-1575

 

The website focuses on his work as a holistic vet, but he is also a L.Ac. with a

MTCM. He

 

works on both humans and animals.

 

While I'm here, let me introduce myself.

 

My name is David Russell and I just received my acupuncture license in

California. My wife

 

and I just opened up a clinic, Russell Family Acupuncture, in Petaluma,

California which

is

about 45 minutes north of San Francisco. The past 12 years I have practiced

massage in

Portland, OR, St.Thomas, USVI and Virginia Beach, VA. I finished Fred Lerner's

Acupuncture

 

Orthopedics program this past January and look forward to taking lots of

continuing ed in

 

the future.

I teach clinical massage, anatomy and physiology, acupressure, myofascial

release,

craniosacral therapy and basic herbology at the Sky Hill Institute here in

Petaluma.

 

warmest regards,

David Russell, LAc, CMT

Russell Family Acupuncture

www.acuherbal.com

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Last year I successfully treated a 50 yr old diabetic carpenter with

osteomyelis of the index finger...possibly caused by a deeply embedded

and ignored splinter. His doctors were talking amputation. The 4 main

things I did were:

 

1. Bled Master Tung's 11.26 ( Control Dirt) on side of injury...for

stagnant non-healing wounds

 

2. Herbal powder poultices of Ru Xiang, Mu Yao, Astragalus, Yunan Bai

Yao

 

3. Balance Method Acupuncture treating analagous contralateral points.

 

4. Large doses of Wobenzyme

 

Wishing you success.

 

Turiya Hill

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Dear Tuyiya (and all),

 

 

 

Thanks for the info. - I do have a question though, in regard to your

Osteomyelitis case. Was there a open wound with necrotic tissue? If so I

assume it was Stage IV?? I only ask because I wonder about your herbal

poultice. I have a few poultice ideas to pack the wound, but am very

cautious due to further or increased risk of infection. The Chinese sources

I read discuss sterilizing the gauze + herbs before inserting them. This is

my primarily question and concern. If anyone has experience along these

lines I would be happy to hear about it.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

-Jason

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of turiyahill

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:29 PM

 

Re: Necrotic tissue ulcer

 

 

 

Last year I successfully treated a 50 yr old diabetic carpenter with

osteomyelis of the index finger...possibly caused by a deeply embedded

and ignored splinter. His doctors were talking amputation. The 4 main

things I did were:

 

1. Bled Master Tung's 11.26 ( Control Dirt) on side of injury...for

stagnant non-healing wounds

 

2. Herbal powder poultices of Ru Xiang, Mu Yao, Astragalus, Yunan Bai

Yao

 

3. Balance Method Acupuncture treating analagous contralateral points.

 

4. Large doses of Wobenzyme

 

Wishing you success.

 

Turiya Hill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jason,

 

This is actually one of the few good uses for white sugar. It has an

osmotic effect and it tends to both be too strong to promote infection

and to dehydrate microbes attacking the finger. I have used it

successfully for diabetic ulcerations and it has been used as a

battlefield dressing for wounds in pre-antibiotic eras.

 

Karen Vaughan, L.Ac.

Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist

253 Garfield Place

Brooklyn NY 11215

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Karen,

This is very interesting - you say it's too strong to promote

infection and too strong to dehydrate microbes. What is too strong

about it and what does it do then for the ulcer?

Geoff

 

 

, Karen Vaughan

<creationsgarden1 wrote:

>

> Jason,

>

> This is actually one of the few good uses for white sugar. It has an

> osmotic effect and it tends to both be too strong to promote infection

> and to dehydrate microbes attacking the finger. I have used it

> successfully for diabetic ulcerations and it has been used as a

> battlefield dressing for wounds in pre-antibiotic eras.

>

> Karen Vaughan, L.Ac.

> Licensed Acupuncturist, and Herbalist

> 253 Garfield Place

> Brooklyn NY 11215

>

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