Ignoring Liver and LUng Yang? NOOO!

[Guest guest]

Dear Phil,

I guess I never thought of looking at the number of Google Hits to

determine if something " exists. " It's one operational definition, I

suppose. The only oddity, really, is in the way we express the concept

in words. After looking at your search protocols, I noticed that you

didn't use " Deficient Liver Qi " to examine the deficiency of Liver

Yang, nor did you use " Deficient Lung Qi " to examine the concept of

Deficient Lung Yang.

 

Actually, I think, we are not ignoring the concepts of Liver and Lung

yang; we are only talking about it another way. The ways that we

articulate a deficiency of the yin or yang aspect of an official is

often to denote which substance (of the 5) is deficient (shen, qi,

shen, jing, blood, fluids) with shen and qi, respectively, being the

most yang substances, and blood and fluids being the most yin. While

Spleen and Heart and Kidney all have active upward directionality that

we can encourage clinically, the phrases " Spleen Yang, Heart Yang and

Kidney Yang " have a place in the clinical conversation, which separates

the notion that Yang and Yin are part of the bigger notion of Qi (yang

substance) of those officials. However, Liver and LUng qi is the yang

aspect of the liver and lung, where the action of spreading and descent

is the characteristic action of those officials. Thus you will find

" deficient lung qi " or " deficient liver qi " to denote the diagnoses

reflective of the most Yang aspects of those organs. So, in effect,

the concept is not being ignored---the languaging of it is different.

 

Clear as mud, huh?

Hope this helps.

 

Clayton Spivey

Maryland

 

On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:46 AM, wrote:

 

> Yang deficiency of LV and HT: Should we ignore them as oddities?

> In THEORY, each organ has a Yang and Yin aspect. So, in THEORY, each

> organ should have the possibility of having a Yang Xu and a Yin Xu.

>

> In PRACTICE, because the concept of LV Yang Xu and LU Yang Xu are

> rare in the literature (as assessed by WWW hits - see below), should

> we

> ignore them completely?

> Google-searches suggest that the CONCEPT of liver-yang-xu and lung-

> yang-xu are rare, relative to the CONCEPTS kidney-yang-xu,

> spleen-yang-

> xu and heart-yang-xu.

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I just read something really interesting on this topic at

http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/BobBlog3 called Part One: Where the Infrigement

Hides. It is an amazing piece of writing on the current situation with

translation confusion in the field and seems relevant to your post on the

different words we use in english to talk about Chinese medicine concept.

 

Seems right up the alley of why we might use Deficient Liver Qi were a Chinese

text might use Gan Yang Xu.

 

Jessica Curl

 

 

 

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