Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 The front page article about the AOM / AAOM reunion is interesting. I know some of you were around when they split 14 years ago, but would be interested in a little background of why the split occurred in the first place. Was it a simple ego trip between factions or something worth while? Do you think it made any difference to the profession as a whole? Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 At the time, the AAOM was interested in a professional doctorate status, and limiting practice of acupuncture to those who had a certain number of hours, graduation from a 2-4 year college of TCM, and discouraging practice by those with short order 50-300 hour courses, including many M.D.'s and D.C.'s. They also wanted licensing to be based on the practice of both acupuncture and herbal medicine. The Alliance (AOM) was more open to those with less training, and supported separate practice of acupuncture and herbal medicine. The wars at the time were nasty between the two groups, leading to many individuals, including myself, to largely withdraw from the national politics. It seemed hopeless at times. On Mar 5, 2007, at 12:36 AM, G Hudson wrote: > The front page article about the AOM / AAOM reunion is interesting. I > know some of you were around when they split 14 years ago, but would > be interested in a little background of why the split occurred in the > first place. Was it a simple ego trip between factions or something > worth while? Do you think it made any difference to the profession as > a whole? > > Geoff > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Geoff, At the time, I was president of the Acupuncture Assoc. of Colorado and was a delegate at that infamous meeting in Chicago. The way I remember things, the AAAOM leadership wanted to create national standards for acupuncture/CM in this country which included mandatory study of Chinese herbal medicie. These standards were also basically TCM standards. A number of constituents, including the Worsleyans and practitioners of Japanese styles of OM, felt that they would be excluded or forced to study and learn things they were not interested in. Remember that the NCCAOM originally spent a great deal of time creating an acupuncture exam that all schools of practice could live with. In any case, the leadership of the AAAOM used parlimentary procedures to ramrod their agenda through. So there were two bones of contention: One, the concern over streamrollering alternative traditions and points of view, and two, the political hardball of the AAAOM leadership in getting their way. They simply were not willing to listen to the " loyal opposition " and compromise in any way. Once it became clear that the AAAOM leadership was going to go ahead with their agenda regardless of the objections of a sizeable group of concerned opponents, those opponents felt that they no longer had a say in the AAAOM. Therefore, in the weeks after the Chicago convention, the National Alliance was formed from those who A) wanted to maintain the diversity within our profession here in the U.S. and B) did not like the hardball politics of the AAAOM leadership. Of course, there were clashes of personalities as well, and it was these latter personalitiy issues which, IMO, continued to drive a wedge between these two groups. Eventually, some of the people in the rechristened AAOM retired and the leaderships of the two groups were able to speak collegially to each other. (Please don't ask for names. That's all water under the bridge.) In any case, that's my take on the whole fiasco. As for the impact on our profession, it definitely split the very small available resources for lobbying, etc. between the two groups. It also caused confusion among the rank and file. However, I believe that now is the time to close ranks and all join the AAAOM. One of the real problems is that the profession does not support its professional associations (state and national) the way we really ought to. Our continued survival in this society is by no means assured, and one of the best ways to insure our continued ability to practice this medicine is to join and get actively involved in our state and national associations. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Thanks for the replies Bob & Z'ev. No interest in the names, but more in strategies for preventing future 'mine is bigger than yours' battles that impact many more people than the couple who get their britches wadded up. Being one of a few rats fleeing the sinking ship that was NIAOM, it's clear that the 'peace love and happiness' kind of people had egos just like many of the people they kvetched about constantly, and many innocent people have suffered. One of our professors who was a certain author of a famous pediatric book comes to mind as one such casualty. Sure, I'm bitter, but there should be some instruments of organization that can help to keep the qi moving when the ego bashing starts up. My wife is a psychologist, and the new issue for them is that many of the state organizations are lobbying for prescription privileges. This is causing a lot of ruckus between the supporters and opposers, which is quite heated at times - so obviously our profession isn't unique for this kind of discourse. Hopefully someone organizing this A/AAOM marriage has a good prenup. Best rgds Geoff , " Bob Flaws " >...hardball politics of the AAAOM leadership. Of > course, there were clashes of personalities as well, and it was > these > latter personalitiy issues which, IMO, continued to drive a wedge > between these two groups. Eventually, some of the people in the > rechristened AAOM retired and the leaderships of the two groups were > able to speak collegially to each other. (Please don't ask for names. > That's all water under the bridge.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 It was my impression that the Council of Colleges at the time controlled what was the AAAOM by the fact that the majority of those who were not totally apathetic were working for colleges, or something similar that related to colleges and academia. This was ok as long as we wished the profession to remain non-professional, such as massage-style training as was the relative norm outside of California (most colleges at the time started as massage schools an evolved) at the time. So, CA and FL and a couple large states had membership development projects to bring a sense of what the future might be if we had a focus on OM instead of acupuncture alone and they got together enough votes to win an election and to change some of the bylaws. There was a lot of antipathy with both sides exteremely bitter rivals. I ran for the board with the concept of supporting whichever group won, assuming that it was healthy to a democracy to have this sort of discussion happening. I got the total number of votes in my state alone and was unelected, as both sides thought I was on the other side. Cute group of people. Interestingly enough, the new president of the AAAOM, HArvey Kaltsas, who was reviled by the other side, made me editoral chair as he wanted to have a neutral person there. There was no intent to end acupuncture only practice, but to make sure everyone had an awareness of herbal medicine and an understanding of other aspects of Oriental Medicine besides the single aspect that their, perhaps, dogmatic colleges view of our field of medicine espoused. A fear or inadequacy may be what led to the split, or financial fear, but while each and every style of acupuncture and Oriental MEdicine thinks it is better than any other, the board of the AAAOM from the inception of the new bylaws that year never had the goal of a single style of acu or OM even in its thoughts, although survival as an independent profession was of utmost importance. This was difficult when our management company said we couldn't afford them, to be followed by the abandonment of a herb supplier who was going to give us an office with a manager for almost nothing but had to reneg when he was told that if he helped us that the colleges were going to boycott his products, followed by a whispering campaign that AAOM was dead and a backing out of a contracted convention by the colleges, NCCA and the accreditating agency, essentially bankrupting the organization. Putting an honest businessman in the middle who was only trying to help was what went over the line for me and it became my goal to do whatever was necessary to save AAAOM, finishing 9 years later with an organization that was capable of supporting itself and was a vital part of the future of our profession. Luckily, I have a supportive and forgiving wife. After Harvey's yang style broke us free from the chains, every president and board tried to extend the olive branch to the AOMA and the colleges, while at the same time not letting them claim sole representation of the profession at venues that mattered. The board at the time not only paid for the airfare and hotel to attend conventions, but actually paid for the conventions themselves, with banquet, until some years later. To me, these are the unsung heroes of our profession. The same went for our speakers for many years, and thank god for their support as well. There was a push to increase education, but how is this different than any other profession, besides that we started as a diploma and then masters and now doc, when everyone else started as a doctor and increased their education as the profession evolved? To my view, the whole problem started when it was decided to start with a diploma and not a doctorate, raising the educational level as quality English material came forward. This is what had historically been done in every healing profession in the world. If we had had this entry level of doctorate, I doubt that the professiion would have rebelled against the colleges and the evolutionary change of the profession would have been more organic. But then again, maybe I'm wrong. The truth is that what we have now is what we have and it is getting to be ok and possibly to where it would have been in any case anyway. Just more carnage this way. All my opinion and perspective. DAvid Molony In a message dated 3/5/07 3:37:24 AM, crudo20 writes: > The front page article about the AOM / AAOM reunion is interesting. I > know some of you were around when they split 14 years ago, but would > be interested in a little background of why the split occurred in the > first place. Was it a simple ego trip between factions or something > worth while? Do you think it made any difference to the profession as > a whole? > > Geoff > " No one wants advice- only corroboration. " John Steinbeck David Molony 101 Bridge Street Catasauqua, PA 18032 Phone (610)264-2755 Fax (610) 264-7292 **********Confidentiality Notice ********** This electronic transmission and any attached documents or other writings are confidential and are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) identified above. 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Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for your thoughtful response, David. I just found it as I get the digest version and must have missed it before. I guess you have to break eggs to make an omelette. It will be interesting to see how the DOM programs affect the lay of the land in the future. Geoff , acuman1 wrote: >... The truth is that what we have now is what > we have and it is getting to be ok and possibly to where it would have been in > any case anyway. Just more carnage this way. > All my opinion and perspective. > DAvid Molony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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