pregnancy, pain, patches

[Guest guest]

I looked at ten different patches from ten different vendors in my dispensary

for cautions concerning usage during pregnancy. Only two included " cautionary "

remarks. I have a second trimester patient suffering from severe, constant,

radiating to the back horizontally, abdominal pain in the area of Stomach 22 on

the right only, where she has a 4 inch scar from surgery during infancy to

correct stenotic pyloric valve. Her OB agrees the pain is likely due to

subsequent adhesions. I have her on a modified Si Wu formula with added

constipation and Kidney tonifiers. However, since the Movers commonly associated

with pain treatment are contraindicated, my next thought is to try a patch. Does

anyone have opinions or suggestions on this?

I am currently trying spray on moxa and will get her feedback on this at next

appt. OB has agreed on trying superficial needles, which I will try next with a

very superficial technique, needles encircling the scar and directed away from

the scar.

Thank you,

-p

Pamela Zilavy, L.Ac.

chexin

http://www.change-exchange-interchange.com

415) 279-8376

 

 

[Guest guest]

The two scar protocols I'm familiar with both needle obliquely towards the scar,

is this another approach?

 

I don't know if this is helpful, but there are two schools of thought about

topical application, one being that things applied to the surface effect the

inside the same as if taken internally. This would apply to supplementation

using the navel and other spots. The other attitude was that things worked

somewhat differently on the surface. Of course, reflecting on the external

materia medica one can see that many toxic substances were applied to the

surface of the body with impunity, and many internal herbs were used externally

with quite different attitudes. All that is to say that I doubt the small amount

of patch herbs are going to effect a second trimester pregnancy when it would

take a fairly concerted effort to induce an abortion in the first trimester with

internal herbs, provided the patient is otherwise healthy.

 

That said, I suspect you'll get better results with needling if the problem is

scar related, scar treatments are about the closest things to magical effects

that I have ever gotten with acupuncture.

 

Par

 

 

 

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Pamela Zilavy

CHA

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:45 PM

pregnancy, pain, patches

 

 

I looked at ten different patches from ten different vendors in my dispensary

for cautions concerning usage during pregnancy. Only two included " cautionary "

remarks. I have a second trimester patient suffering from severe, constant,

radiating to the back horizontally, abdominal pain in the area of Stomach 22 on

the right only, where she has a 4 inch scar from surgery during infancy to

correct stenotic pyloric valve. Her OB agrees the pain is likely due to

subsequent adhesions. I have her on a modified Si Wu formula with added

constipation and Kidney tonifiers. However, since the Movers commonly associated

with pain treatment are contraindicated, my next thought is to try a patch. Does

anyone have opinions or suggestions on this?

I am currently trying spray on moxa and will get her feedback on this at next

appt. OB has agreed on trying superficial needles, which I will try next with a

very superficial technique, needles encircling the scar and directed away from

the scar.

Thank you,

-p

Pamela Zilavy, L.Ac.

chexin

http://www.change-exchange-interchange.com

415) 279-8376

 

[Guest guest]

I do not know about patches, but try to use wheat germ oil or sesame seed oil on

the scar. Should be high quality. Long term use - months. Buy in capsules,oils

go rancid quickly. Alexander Zide L.Ac.

 

Pamela Zilavy <chexin wrote: I

looked at ten different patches from ten different vendors in my dispensary for

cautions concerning usage during pregnancy. Only two included " cautionary "

remarks. I have a second trimester patient suffering from severe, constant,

radiating to the back horizontally, abdominal pain in the area of Stomach 22 on

the right only, where she has a 4 inch scar from surgery during infancy to

correct stenotic pyloric valve. Her OB agrees the pain is likely due to

subsequent adhesions. I have her on a modified Si Wu formula with added

constipation and Kidney tonifiers. However, since the Movers commonly associated

with pain treatment are contraindicated, my next thought is to try a patch. Does

anyone have opinions or suggestions on this?

I am currently trying spray on moxa and will get her feedback on this at next

appt. OB has agreed on trying superficial needles, which I will try next with a

very superficial technique, needles encircling the scar and directed away from

the scar.

Thank you,

-p

Pamela Zilavy, L.Ac.

chexin

http://www.change-exchange-interchange.com

415) 279-8376

 

[Guest guest]

You can also try castor oil packs. The oil helps to soften hardened tissue.

 

 

 

alexander zide <alexander_zide wrote:

I do not know about patches, but try to use wheat germ oil or sesame seed oil on

the scar. Should be high quality. Long term use - months. Buy in capsules,oils

go rancid quickly. Alexander Zide L.Ac.

 

Pamela Zilavy <chexin wrote: I

looked at ten different patches from ten different vendors in my dispensary for

cautions concerning usage during pregnancy. Only two included " cautionary "

remarks. I have a second trimester patient suffering from severe, constant,

radiating to the back horizontally, abdominal pain in the area of Stomach 22 on

the right only, where she has a 4 inch scar from surgery during infancy to

correct stenotic pyloric valve. Her OB agrees the pain is likely due to

subsequent adhesions. I have her on a modified Si Wu formula with added

constipation and Kidney tonifiers. However, since the Movers commonly associated

with pain treatment are contraindicated, my next thought is to try a patch. Does

anyone have opinions or suggestions on this?

I am currently trying spray on moxa and will get her feedback on this at next

appt. OB has agreed on trying superficial needles, which I will try next with a

very superficial technique, needles encircling the scar and directed away from

the scar.

Thank you,

-p

Pamela Zilavy, L.Ac.

chexin

http://www.change-exchange-interchange.com

415) 279-8376