Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Anyone have Materia Medica info on this herb? I see it in patents but I only have the 1st Edition Bensky MM and it's not in there. Mainly concerned if it is OK with hypertensive patients. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hai dai is kelp as opposed to hai cao which is seaweed. Even in English there is a lot of confusion as to when they are interchangable. Kelp is usually seen as a larger version where as seaweed can be microscopic to huge. My marine biologist friend claims that seaweed harvesting off of California is the states largest agricultural product. It is used as filler in beer etc... Probably this Zostera is a species of hai dai - kelp. I think we need at this point! :-) doug , " elileee " <spyche wrote: > > Anyone have Materia Medica info on this herb? I see it in patents but I > only have the 1st Edition Bensky MM and it's not in there. > Mainly concerned if it is OK with hypertensive patients. > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 , " elileee " <spyche wrote: > > Anyone have Materia Medica info on this herb? I see it in patents but I > only have the 1st Edition Bensky MM and it's not in there. > Mainly concerned if it is OK with hypertensive patients. > Thanks! Basically the same as hai zao. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 , " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus wrote: > > , " elileee " <spyche@> wrote: > > > > Anyone have Materia Medica info on this herb? I see it in patents but I > > only have the 1st Edition Bensky MM and it's not in there. > > Mainly concerned if it is OK with hypertensive patients. > > Thanks! At the Chinese pharmacy that I used to work in, hai dai was often used for making Vietnamese beverages and other dietary recipes. I always understood it to be similar to hai zao, but apparently the name also refers to kun bu (see translation below). The hai dai I've seen is made of greyish flat strips, kun bu is green and leafy, and hai zao is black and thin. I've rarely seen the hai dai in prescriptions but I think it has a nicer flavor in foods. The zhong yao da ci dian (Great Dictionary/Encyclopedia of Chinese Medicinals) says: " Herba Zosterae Marinae cold salty Actions: Softens hardness & transforms phlegm; disinhibits water & drains fire. Indications: goiters & tumors of the neck; concretions; water swelling; leg qi. decoct (4.5-9g); use in pills or powders. The term hai3 dai4 is now used to denote plants of the laminariaceae eaten as food; see kun1 bu4 (kelp). " Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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