Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 My nephew, who lives in Bangcock, has had 2 episodes of nocturnal seizures, once last year and 2 times in the past week. They are gran mal, and happen when he is asleep. Do have any experience with this? He is going to see an neurologist there. I also told him to find a good Chinese herbalist, which he is open to doing. He is in his late 30's, has 2 kids and a wife, and is a CEO of an NGO, bringing sustainable energy to Thailand. He reports being in good health, but started drinking coffee in the past 2 years. He is mostly vegetarian, a runner, a pretty sensitive person. When he lived with us for awhile, I treated him for a bad case of parasites, (he's lived in Asia alot.) I have given him Rehmannia 6 in the past, and urged him to eat chicken. He seemed to be kidney yin deificient in the past. Know any good books on the subject? Supplements that would be helpful, or harmful to avoid? Thanks, Molly Greacen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Dear Molly, My wife started having seizures 17 years ago, so I speak from experience. First and foremost, make sure that he has appropriate imaging such as MRI ,CT and PET scans to determine whether there is a focus or foci from which the electrical activity originates, and whether there it is from a parasite, injury (leaving a scar), or a tumor, whether there is a hot spot indicating an active lesion or a cold spot indicating an old injury or lesion, and whether it is a functional or structural disorder. Armed with that information will help to determine what the next step will be, in conjunction with the appropriate pattern determination. As far as books, I have yet to see a real good quality book on Chinese neurology. Anybody else seen one? Good luck, Yehuda mol <m.greacen wrote: My nephew, who lives in Bangcock, has had 2 episodes of nocturnal seizures, once last year and 2 times in the past week. They are gran mal, and happen when he is asleep. Do have any experience with this? He is going to see an neurologist there. I also told him to find a good Chinese herbalist, which he is open to doing. He is in his late 30's, has 2 kids and a wife, and is a CEO of an NGO, bringing sustainable energy to Thailand. He reports being in good health, but started drinking coffee in the past 2 years. He is mostly vegetarian, a runner, a pretty sensitive person. When he lived with us for awhile, I treated him for a bad case of parasites, (he's lived in Asia alot.) I have given him Rehmannia 6 in the past, and urged him to eat chicken. He seemed to be kidney yin deificient in the past. Know any good books on the subject? Supplements that would be helpful, or harmful to avoid? Thanks, Molly Greacen Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'm far from an expert on seizures, but it would seem obvious to me that he should stop coffee altogether. I think coffee is a major trigger for some people, including migraineurs. Caffeine is at the top of the list for migraineurs to avoid (and chocolate is right up there, too.) Clearly there are millions who can tolerate it, but I always wonder how many are really paying a hidden price. Also, I think the effect can be cumulative or that one can thru overuse or simply habitual use develop a sensitivity. This could include caffeine teas as well. As David Buchholz, M.D. has said, although seizures and migraine are different phenomena, the parallels between them are many. (He also states that often migraines are misdiagnosed as seizures, in his opinion.) I'm sure it is still appropriate that he see a neurologist, and hopefully a competent one. But it seems to me that if your nephew is " sensitive " , as you say, then the coffee's gotta go. Just my 2 fen. Ann My nephew, who lives in Bangcock, has had 2 episodes of nocturnal seizures, once last year and 2 times in the past week. They are gran mal, and happen when he is asleep. Do have any experience with this? He is going to see an neurologist there. I also told him to find a good Chinese herbalist, which he is open to doing. He is in his late 30's, has 2 kids and a wife, and is a CEO of an NGO, bringing sustainable energy to Thailand. He reports being in good health, but started drinking coffee in the past 2 years. He is mostly vegetarian, a runner, a pretty sensitive person. When he lived with us for awhile, I treated him for a bad case of parasites, (he's lived in Asia alot.) I have given him Rehmannia 6 in the past, and urged him to eat chicken. He seemed to be kidney yin deificient in the past. Know any good books on the subject? Supplements that would be helpful, or harmful to avoid? Thanks, Molly Greacen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 We had several patients in school who would come in pressing Du26 to delay onset of their seizures. I think the Nei Jing said that convulsions were due to wind and phlegm (might have been something like, 'without phlegm there are no convulsions'), and then you have Ding Xian Wan, jia jian if needed. Worked very well for our patients. Geoff - about time to go pull myself an espresso with my home roasted beans. , mol <m.greacen wrote: > > > > My nephew, who lives in Bangcock, has had 2 > episodes of nocturnal seizures, once last year and 2 times in the past > week. They are gran mal, and happen when he is asleep. Do have any > experience with this? > > He is going to see an neurologist there. I also told him to find a good > Chinese herbalist, which he is open to doing. He is in his late 30's, > has 2 kids and a wife, and is a CEO of an NGO, bringing sustainable > energy to Thailand. He reports being in good health, but started > drinking coffee in the past 2 years. He is mostly vegetarian, a runner, > a pretty sensitive person. When he lived with us for awhile, I treated > him for a bad case of parasites, (he's lived in Asia alot.) I have > given him Rehmannia 6 in the past, and urged him to eat chicken. He > seemed to be kidney yin deificient in the past. > > Know any good books on the subject? Supplements that would be helpful, > or harmful to avoid? > > Thanks, > Molly Greacen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Dear Geoff, You bring up a very important issue with seizures. I have spoken about this before, but I believe it would be beneficial to bring up again: The connection between wind, phlegm and seizures, at least in my wife's case is remarkable. Her seizures occur every 3-4 weeks, and when she is due to have a seizure, there is a dramatic increase in phlegm rattling in her throat, and drooling of thick clear phlegm. She started having seizures in 1990, and in 1994 started to develop tremors, spasm and shaking in her jaw, chin and hands. Though top neurologists have said that Parkinsonism doesn't ever occur with epilepsy (from a Western biochemical perspective) it makes perfect sense from a Chinese perspective: the root of the problems is Kd and Ht Yin Xu with Lv wind and Yang rising, the wind fanning the already vacuitous Yin creating pathogenic dryness from the depleted body fluids creating phlegm. As far as Du26 is concerned, my experience is that it is effective in restoring consciousness, but actually exascerbates her tremors and spasms, besides being unbearably painful. Yehuda G Hudson <crudo20 wrote: We had several patients in school who would come in pressing Du26 to delay onset of their seizures. I think the Nei Jing said that convulsions were due to wind and phlegm (might have been something like, 'without phlegm there are no convulsions'), and then you have Ding Xian Wan, jia jian if needed. Worked very well for our patients. Geoff - about time to go pull myself an espresso with my home roasted beans. , mol <m.greacen wrote: > > > > My nephew, who lives in Bangcock, has had 2 > episodes of nocturnal seizures, once last year and 2 times in the past > week. They are gran mal, and happen when he is asleep. Do have any > experience with this? > > He is going to see an neurologist there. I also told him to find a good > Chinese herbalist, which he is open to doing. He is in his late 30's, > has 2 kids and a wife, and is a CEO of an NGO, bringing sustainable > energy to Thailand. He reports being in good health, but started > drinking coffee in the past 2 years. He is mostly vegetarian, a runner, > a pretty sensitive person. When he lived with us for awhile, I treated > him for a bad case of parasites, (he's lived in Asia alot.) I have > given him Rehmannia 6 in the past, and urged him to eat chicken. He > seemed to be kidney yin deificient in the past. > > Know any good books on the subject? Supplements that would be helpful, > or harmful to avoid? > > Thanks, > Molly Greacen > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Dear Yehuda, Thanks for sharing your personal experience and insight. I'll remember Du26 might not be good for some patients.. if I ever have another seizure patient. Best, Geoff , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Dear Geoff, > > You bring up a very important issue with seizures. I have spoken about this before, but I believe it would be beneficial to bring up again: The connection between wind, phlegm and seizures, at least in my wife... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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