Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Doug, Let me clarify. The issue is not at all how we treat patients, but rather our public image and our ability to communicate our medicine (theory, diagnosis and treatment) to those in influential (FOR US!) positions who could care less about our nomenclature. Let's face it, most of us have been raised and educated (or brainwashed) by the western medical model. People think and communicate in the language they feel comfortable in. The only time that there is usually a paradigm shift, is if someone faces severe illness, trauma or crisis, and they are shocked by being let down by the system that they put their trust in. Now along with that first given there is a second: There is no other alternative medical system which is as sophisticated, systematized, comprehensive, time-tested and most importantly, successful as Chinese medicine--nothing comes close. We must articulately convey that we are different and should not be lumped together with other healing modalities. There should be three distinct medical models: Western , Chinese, and alternative, the latter being " a big top " including the plethora of other modalities, apart from the first 2. This should be disseminated with conviction and eloquence. I hate to use the term propaganda, but when enough people hear a convincing argument wrapped in an attractive package long enough, they start to believe in it. In our case, there is nothing disingenuous about what we practice, on the contrary, we are very user friendly, the only difficulty being our language. Therefore it should behoove us to get ourselves validated and understood. That way, even if we use Western terminology which is volatile or provocative (such as stating that we treat Western diseases), laws will have already been enacted, and legislators will already have been befriended, to indemnify us. We are getting bigger and our numbers keep growing all the time, both in terms of practitioners and patients. " Hiding behind TCM jargon or terminology " (I personally am not bothered by the term jargon, and don't think that it has necessarily a pejorative connotation), is like having a rapidly maturing adolescent choosing to stay in elementary school, and trying to fit in, pretending that he belongs in 6th grade, because he is socially immature, even though he is a head taller than everyone else and has facial hair. The ideas I expressed about what we have to now do to manifest our destiny, will enable us to mature evenly, in all respects. We have among our colleagues, many of whom are in this group, so many brilliant, erudite, articulate and charismatic scholars. All we need is the leadership and assiduity to delegate and actuate. To again quote the Misha, " If I am not for myself who will be for me. If I am only for myself what am I, and if not now, when. Respectfully, Yehuda wrote: Uh-oh. Although I enjoy greatly being absolutely right I'm not sure this is what the issue is about. This whole idea of " we treat patterns not diseases " is frought with problems. My point was that if we want to claim that we treat diseases then everyone alternative medicine will have the right to say the same thing. I don't think we have the ability or money to take that on. We will get subsumed into the AMA and destroyed before we will be allowed to treat disease. Dr. WWW's statement " We should not have to hide behind TCM diagnosis jargon in order to avoid notice. " is about our self-esteem. The problematic word is " jargon " to many, apparently. I would accept hiding behind TCM terminology. doug , wrote: > > Doug is absolutely right. We do treat disease, let's be honest! (despite what the law currently says!) We don't live in an insular world. Isolationism may work in the short term, and we will definitely succeed in being able messengers to heal the millions who have been failed by the Western medical treatment paradigm and who come to us as a last resort, BUT, if we fail to articulate to legislators who have been brainwashed by the big money of the pharmaceutical companies, researchers, MDs and medical schools that to the belief that their paradigm is mainstream, reasonable, and ultimately (even if they don't have a cure yet!) efficacious, then we are doomed to repeat the fate that befell 19th century homeopaths and eclectic naturopaths: we will be regulated into a corner and ultimately be castrated and equated with massage therapists, maybe even having to work under MD's supervision. They want us out! We threaten their monopoly, even more than > chiropractors, because we practice medicine, not just manipulation. Can't you see that!!! The only approach we can take for that nightmarish scenario to not enter into the realm of possibility requires the following: > > 1. Solid education in Western medical terminology. > 2. Published research supporting the premise that we can successfully treat Western Medically named conditions that is disseminated to our community and is readily accessable. > 3. Extensive opportunities and easy access for those of us who are unable to translate our terminology, whether in philosophy, diagnosis, or treatment into Western applications to be taught and reviewed how, so as to know what to explain when asked. > 4. Moment to moment access to the latest Western medical developments, with our finest minds translating the information into Chinese medical language for us to consider our application of them. > 5. BIG MONEY put into lobbying and lots of volunteer grassroots organizing to enable us to fight back and win ourselves a safe niche. > > To quote another inhabitant of LA, " Why can't we all just get along? " (Rodney King, > Mar 1991). We are so disinfranchised with so many different feifdoms, while the medical establishment has only one thing going against it--our trump card: the growing number of dissatisfied and sick patients that they either created or are unable to resolve. > > If we survive the right way, then we win--because we are agents of healing where they fail. > > In the 60s they used to say, " dress British, think Yiddish. " We need to keep our integrity and not capitulate to the bio-medical paradigm that wants to swallow up acupuncture and herbal medicine, BUT, we also need to act smart, walk the walk and talk the talk if we are going to survive. > > Sincerely, > > Yehuda > > > > wrote: > But this is where the crux of the issue with the FDA lies. If we indeed say we treat diseases > then we need the proof that we do. Forget about us for a minute, if this wasn't required > then everybody could make claims on treating diseases. It would be snake-oil redux. I > would glad enough just to say we can treat in our own TCM medical vocabulary. > > doug > > , " " <zrosenbe@> wrote: > > > > I agree with most of the points you are making, except for the > > statement " we should not have to hide behind TCM diagnosis jargon " . > > The language of Chinese medicine contains the essence of the subject, > > and your statement implies that only 'biomedical jargon' is real. > > Yes we treat disease, largely through pattern differentiation, but > > medical Chinese language and principles is what we base our practice > > on primarily. We shouldn't discount it in any way. > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Dr. W. W. Waldrope DOM AP wrote: > > > > > > > > I believe that a STRONG, concerted effort on our part is necessary to > > > assure the continued existence of TCM as we know it. We are doctors > > > and we should say so. Our pharmacoepia is comprised of herbal > > > medicines that treat disease and we should say so. We should not have > > > to hide behind TCM diagnosis jargon in order to avoid notice. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Don't forget that the DAOM is brought to you by the same folks who brought you the master's degree. <<<It's that which makes the DAOM so very important, because, G-d willing, it will prepare those of us who choose to proceed <<<academically, to learn in a formal scholarly setting what so many of you have had to pick up piecemeal, through continuing <<<education courses, personal research and the school of life. As usual, Zev nailed it. > I agree with most of the points you are making, except for the statement " we should not have to hide behind TCM diagnosis <jargon " . The language of Chinese medicine contains the essence of the subject, and your statement implies that only 'biomedical <jargon' is real. Yes we treat disease, largely through pattern differentiation, but medical Chinese language and principles is what <we base our practice on primarily. We shouldn't discount it in any way. " Biomedicals? We don't need no stinking Biomedicals! " -Hum fri bo gar, Treasure of the Sierra Kunluns Other random but pertinent thoughts. The public wants Ac & OM. Even the evil robber barons, politcians and skullduggers-for-hire must yield to the wave of market force. Forget political infighting. Do a video media advertising blitz. Hire experts. Karl Rove should be sending out resumes in a year or so. And it's also possible that MD's don't want to knock us out of the market. Ac & OM 's hourly rate is pitiful compared to the poorest paid medical specialty. They've been lamenting the excessive caseloads and consequent influence on quality of care for years so they don't need to open new markets and especially not a market that would put them in the red. And aside from the pre-retirement generation, most MD's respect Ac & OM when they see it in action. Don't circle the wagons. Make friends by demonstrating. Take a doctor to lunch and for treatment. Show them how you can help them. JOE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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