Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 (Jason) I disagree with (I think) your contention that doctors diagnosis is relatively uniform and it is just the herbs that are different. But I firmly disagree that generally doctors diagnose the same. (Sharon) I did not mean to say that diagnosis is uniform or that doctors diagnose the same - but only compared to formula and herb choices. (Jason) I have found that this is precisely why it helps to not study case studies in isolation. Meaning it is helpful to pick a doctor for example, and immerse themselves in his material to understand his thinking. There are no silver platters like some modern case studies. I also recently picked up a good book in China on how to read case studies. Action packed which shows there is really an art to the whole process. (sharon) I so agree! I find it so enlightening to read a bunch of studies by one doctor. I also love to read several sources on one topic. I just translated a stack of cases all on glomus and as a whole - it is so much more helpful for understanding something like glomus than, as you say, studying a case in isolation. Could you let me know the title/publisher/isbn of the book you are referring to? It sounds so juicy! I'd love to read it. (Jason) One could easily dismiss one of the most treasured collection of cases studies as meaningless because of " lack of enough information " , meaning Ye Tian-Shi's. His cases are terse and difficult to understand, they give the read little to grasp onto. Therefore why do so many great doctors say it is mandatory to study them? One must not just read a few, and expect to have the answer right in front of them, but study them. I believe all the information are in these case studies. Furthermore, there are (some) commentaries from people much smarter than us to help us out. That is also the case with SHL and other systems. (Sharon) Again, I agree. But, I must say that when the case study is terse and cryptic - what else can we do but make up stories about what the Doctor was thinking? Isn't that what the commentators do? And what language do they use but up/down, hot/cold, yin/yang, zang/ fu, stasis/movement - So, yes, these cases are useful because they really do make us think stuff out for ourselves. So when is it okay to make up stories, what language do we use with our stories, when is it not making up a story but " thinking intelligently " . It is mandatory to study these cases because, with them, we are forced to really learn what our frameworks for understanding are so we can expand them and add to them to encompass the reality of the case. Sharon Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 413-549-4021 sweiz www.whitepinehealingarts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 You lost me here. I personally think that almost everything about CM is pluralist (as does Volker). That includes the way doctors dx and tx, including everything in-between including actual herbs given. Maybe you could explain. -Jason _____ On Behalf Of sharon weizenbaum (Sharon) I did not mean to say that diagnosis is uniform or that doctors diagnose the same - but only compared to formula and herb choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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